facial products (revisited)

From the original over 50, thee and me thread I noticed some of you have used TriVectin with success. A few of you mentioned the CVS? version.

Now Walgreens has jumped in with their brand named
ProVectin, for $19.99 - 6 fl oz. bottle. I wonder if the ingredients
are identical? Anyway, with their guarantee I snagged a tube.


Here's the LONG ingredient list in the PROVectin;

Water, Stearic Acid
Acetyl Hexapeptide-3
Glycerin
Cetyl Alcohol
Glyceryl Stearate
Propylene Glycol
Butylene Glycol
Isopropyl Palmitate
Triethanolamine
Polyglycerylmethacrylate (good lord)
Palmitoyl Oligopeptide
Cocoa Butter
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch
Aloe Barbadensis Gel
Ethyl Macadamiate
Sorbitan Olivate
Dimethicone
Dimethicone Copolyol
Diazolidinyl
Urea
Methylparaben
Propylparaben
Mango Butter
Disodium EDTA
PEG-8 Dimethicone
Octyldodecanol
Propylene Glycol
Zea Mays
Tocopheryl Acetate
Cholecalceferol
Retinyl Palimate
Asorbic Acid
Pyridoxine HCL
Silica
Sodium Propoxhydroxypropyl (whew)
Thiosulfate Silica
Extracts of Cucumber
Green Tea
Grapeseed
Peach
Seaweed
Lemon
Calendula
Gingko Biloba
....and
Ginger!

Geeeeez. Dizzy now... and not sure I want all this "STUFF" on my face.

Hopefully those of you with the "higher dollar variety" can make a comparison. I couldn't find any website ingredient info.

Any other success stories with other facial products--lotions/creams/oils ?

HUGS.. Mindy

I have a tube of StriVectin-SD
Mine says intesive repair for existing strech marks, but it is suppose to be a good wrinkle cream, Got mine at GNC for 135.00 a tube, but I have had it almost ayear and have used about one forth of the tube, heres the ingedients...........
Deionised water
C12-15 alkyl Benzoate
Sesame Oil
Capric Triglyceride
Sweet Almond Oil
Cetearyl oilvate
Sorbitan oilvate
Striadril Complex (consisting of Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-3 phyllanthus Embilica Fruit extract, Siegesbeckia orientalis extract,
Propolene glycol, Palmitoya Oligopetide, Glucosamine HCL, Algae extract, Yeast extract,Urea,Butylene Glycol Hydrocotyl Extract, Cone flower, Hyddrolyized Wheat protien,Wheat starch, Imperata Cylindrica Root extract,Bearberry extract and licorice bht, Glycerin, PPG-12/SMDI Copolymer PEG-100 stearate, cocoa butter stearic acid Shea butter Tocopheryl Acetate, Mango butter, Peppermint Oil, Methylparaben, Xanthan Gum Propylparaben, Triethanolamine, Butylene glycol, DMDM Hydantoin,lodopropynyl Butylcarbanate, Disodium EDTA, Retinyl Palmitate and last but not least...... Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate.
Hope this helps............
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snickers....


SO nice of you to post the ingredients. BIG HELP.. HUGE HUG





Thanks!

Mindy

Some of that stuff is downright scary. Maybe I'd do just as well to go outside and collect acid rain and put that on my face.

Ladies,

I read the original thread on this also. As I mentioned on that thread I have rosacea and was reluctant to try anything before talking it over with my dermatologist.

So I asked him about me trying Stivectin. His response was to give me samples of MD Forte and Tazorac. One for morning use the other for bedtime use. He said the active ingredient is double what Strivectin has in it. He started me on the mildest formula and there are 2 more each progressively stronger that I could eventually work up to.

Anyway, thought I'd share. I feel like I have a mild sunburn where I use it, but there is no redness.

Wilma

Are either of these creams that you have posted ingredients for the CVS one? I just ordered it but it hasn't arrived yet. Has anyone tried the CVS brand? What do you think?
Pat

Prush,

After reading up a bit, they say the most effective ingredient in these creams in terms of diminishing stretch marks and wrinkles is Acetyl Hexapeptide-3. Since ingredients are listed in order of content, you might check your tube when it arrives.

I have a tube of Strivectin that I started using in May 2004, and I just recently bought a tube of the CVS brand (called Preventin) and it seems to be working just as well as the more expensive Strivectin. Here's the ingredients as they are listed on the CVS Preventin version:

Water
Stearic Acid
Acetyl Hexapeptide-3
Cetyl Alcohol
Glyceryl Stearate
Propylene Glycol
Butylene Glycol
Isopropyl Palmitate
Triethanaolamine
Polyglycerylmethacrylate
Palmitoyl Oligopeptide
Cocoa Butter
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch
Aloe Barbadenisis Gel
Ethyl Macadamiate
Sorbitan Olivate
Dimethicone
Dimethicone Copolyol
Peppermint Oil
Dizazolidinyl Urea
MethylparabenEimethicone & Octyldodencanol & Propylene Glycol & Zea Mays &Ascorbic Acid & Pyridoxine HCL & Silica & Sodium Propoxyhydroxpropyl Thiosulfate Silica
Extracts of Cucumber
Green Tea
Grapeseed
Peach
Seaweed
Lemon
Calendula
Gingo Biloba
Ginger



WHEW!!!


Ann

Great! Thanks for the info! I can't wait to try it!
Pat

From a Paula Begoun newsletter re: StriVectin.

For those of you who know her, a strong consumer advocate
specializing in beauty products... "no fluff"..

Manufacturer and marketing hype/propaganda gets old.


StriVectin-SD:
Better than Botox?

So is StriVectin betterthan Botox?
The short answer is no–and that means no way,and nohow. It isn’t evenbetter than the daily useof an effective sunscreen!
Quite a few of you have written asking about the rather prominentnewspaper ads for the product StriVectin-SD ($135
for 6 ounces). With a headline that reads “Better than Botox,”
along with the increasing number of topical products hitting the marketclaiming they can mimic the effects of Botox without “painful injections,” I certainly understand the curiosity.
I wrote about StriVectin-SD in a previous newsletter, when a readerasked about its ability to repair stretch marks. That was StriVectin’s original marketing claim to fame, though the fame was all self-promoted,as there is not a single independent, peer-reviewed study to prove that StriVectin is an effective option for repairing stretch marks.The studies that do exist about StriVectin’s benefits for stretch markswere paid for by Klein-Becker, the company that distributes StriVectin.According to the company’s latest ads, they were surprised to find that not only was StriVectin-SD getting rid of women’s stretch marks, but also that somehow their facial wrinkles were going away, too. For that reason, we now have the astounding “anti-wrinkle breakthrough
of the decade.” Regrettably, no supportive research needs
to be available to sell this kind of hyperbole. All it takes is to promise women that a product will get rid of their wrinkles and they will buy it in droves, no matter how many other product lines, infomercials, advertisements, or cosmetics salespeople pledge the exact same thing.

StriVectin’s ad continues with “The active formula in StriVectin-
SD has recently been shown in clinical trials to significantly reduce
that category of fine lines and facial wrinkles that can add 10–15
years to your appearance…and even reduce the dark circles under
your eyes...without irritation, painful injections, or surgery.” One more flourish is the statement that “in fact, [StriVectin-SD] is the only topical formulation clinically proven to effectively confront every aspect of wrinkle reduction.” It is easy to debunk all of this overblown nonsense by pointing out the product’s lack of sunscreen; perhaps StriVectin overlooked the research about sun exposure’s deleterious, wrinkling, and discoloring effects on skin.
Klein-Becker has parlayed these claims into what appears to be
little more than an effort to spin off the popularity of Botox to its own benefit. StriVectin-SD is supposedly preferred because of its longterm results versus the short-term results (and repeated treatments) of Botox. A Dr. Nathalie Chevreau is quoted in the ad, saying that “the cumulative effects of using a product like StriVectin become more noticeable every day, and ultimately last longer than Botox.” Chevreau is hardly an impartial source, as she works for Klein-Becker. Further, Dr. Chevreau is a licensed dietician in Utah, a fact that is conveniently left out of StriVectin’s ad because it would conflict with her credibility as a medical doctor speaking about the legitimate benefits of an antiwrinkle cream. The final Botox comparison comes from the ad’s statement that StriVectin not only addresses the expression lines Botox treats, but also the lines Botox doesn’t affect. However, the only lines Botox wouldn’t affect are the ones not injected.
Needless to say, Klein-Becker’s statements comparing StriVectin-
SD to Botox have not gone unnoticed by Allergan, the company that manufactures the drug. According to an article in The Salt Lake Tribune, Allergan has threatened to sue Klein-Becker for false advertising and unfair business practices. After the tension continued to mount on both sides, Klein-Becker actually went ahead and took the case to court, asking a federal judge to approve its advertising for StriVectin-SD. As this newsletter goes to press, Klein-Becker has not taken their lawsuit any further.
In the meantime, the “Better than Botox” ads remain in wide circulation, are sent via spam emails, and StriVectin-SD is now available at Nordstrom department stores.

So is StriVectin better than Botox? The short answer is no—and
that means no way, and nohow. It isn’t even better than the daily use of an effective sunscreen! StriVectin is merely a moisturizer with some good emollients and antioxidants, though the addition of peppermint oil is extremely suspect—the tingle is probably meant to lead women to believe that the product is doing something to their skin. Botox prevents the use of facial muscles, and that instantaneously smoothes out the skin. StriVectin-SD won’t alter the wrinkling on any part of
your face, not in the long term, and not in the short term.
Incidentally, the two studies quoted in StriVectin’s ads for “Better
than Botox” were supposedly from information presented at the 20th World Congress of Dermatology, held in July 2002. These examined the effects of palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 (trade name: Matrixyl, but also known as Pal-KTTKS, which is the term used in StriVectin’s ads) and compared it to vitamin C and retinol. However, there is nopublished research substantiating the results, and StriVectin declined to send us any documentation.