vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
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10-30-2008, 03:55 PM
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Hyster Sister
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Hysterectomy: January 1st, 1984
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
I was on vivelle dot .05mg -- now I'm on a bio identical cream biest E2 .05mg and E3 .05mg. how does that compare to the patch dosage? I'm so confused on some of this stuff. My current dr. is NO help as she refuses to call me back and I can't even get in to see her for another 3 weeks. I have made an appointment with another Dr. but that isn't til Jan  So, I'll have to stick it out with this one til then. So for now, I have to rely on the pharmacy and you guys. I feel like this Dr. has thrown me under the bus!
I had a bad reaction to the pregnenolone she put me on and she refuses to contact me over it. The girls at the front desk have left her big notes in big red letters to call me over it and she never has. Can you believe that?? She shouldn't even be practicing.
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10-30-2008, 05:54 PM
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Jungle Safari Guide

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Hysterectomy: May 6th, 1999
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
I think it's time to find a new doctor than. If you were doing well on the Vivelle Dot than perhaps you should go back to using that. Why change if you were doing well on it?
Comparing the vivelle Dot to bi est cream is like comparing apples to oranges. For one, the Vivelle Dot does not contain Estriol, bi-est does.
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10-30-2008, 06:12 PM
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Hyster Sister
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Hysterectomy: January 1st, 1984
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
I wasn't doing well on the vivelle - that's why the change. I am going to have a new Dr. but that won't be til Jan so until Jan 7th, I'm stuck with this one.
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10-30-2008, 06:32 PM
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Jungle Safari Guide

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Hysterectomy: May 6th, 1999
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
I would discontinue the pregnelone than if you had a bad reaction to it. Sorry the doctor isn't what you thought he/she would be. My personal experience has been that I had to go thru a few doctors before I found the right fit for me. Just like hrt, doctors are not one size fits all. What one person may think is a wonderful doc may not be the right fit for you.
As you know, it can take some time to adjust and adapt to any changes you make to your hrt. If you're using creams, the base can also make a difference. I just recently changed my base back to something that has worked very well for me in the past and was kind of shocked to find that I started having hot flashes and other symptoms again. As time went by though, those symptoms are abating.
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10-30-2008, 06:34 PM
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Hysterectomy: April 4th, 2002
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
Hi Seablue!
I'm sorry that you're so frustrated with your doctor. It's not fun to feel unwell and feel that no one is listening.
When I switched from Estratest HS to compounded hormones, my doctor and compounding pharmacist both said to give it three months before any changes would be considered. At the end of that time I told them what symptoms had improved and which ones had not. It was then that tweaks were made and again I was told to give the new hormone therapy doses three months before any further changes would be made. It does take time for the body to adjust and if changes are made too soon, it can result in more fluctuations, which makes finding balance all the more difficult.
You're probably sick of hearing by now that patience is a virtue and that slow and steady wins the race in the Hormone Jungle but it's true. This is largely a trial and error process. Some women are lucky and hit on the right hormone therapy the first time and others wander around through the Jungle for a while before finding balance. At least you are in good company!
I hope you're keeping a journal to share with whichever doctor you decide to see. If you aren't on an appointment cancellation list, ask to be added. It's possible that you could get in sooner than January.
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10-31-2008, 09:21 AM
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Hyster Sister
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Hysterectomy: January 1st, 1984
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
I'm at the two month mark but I was also changed in the middle. So, I'm only at day 31 on the new doses. I did indeed go off pregnenolone on my own last Sat. I just wish I knew how long it took for pregnenolone to leave the body. The pharmacist said that there is really no knowing since it's fat soluble and it all depends on each person's body and how they metabolize things.
I found a new Dr. that can see me earlier than Jan. I see him in two weeks. I'll still keep my Jan appointment in case this guy doesn't work out. I'm so leary of Dr.'s now.
I still think I need a low dose of testosterone which this "idiot" Dr. refuses to give me. No libido at all. Even if it was a low dose which was given a few times a week. My test results show that I'm very low with test.
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10-31-2008, 09:38 AM
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Hysterectomy: April 4th, 2002
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
 I understand how frustrating it is to work with doctors and compounding pharmacists having been through all this myself.  I tested low on testosterone too but it was well past six months of being on compounded hormones before I got a prescription for it. I wasn't very pleased with the wait as lack of libido was my primary complaint but it was necessary to balance the other hormones first before adding that hormone as a part of my therapy.
From personal experience, I can say that it really is best to work with one hormone at a time, balancing on it before even considering adding another one. Yes, it may seem like it will take forever doing it that way but it's the best way to know how you will react to each hormone. You will have a better chance of knowing which hormone is causing the upset in balance--something that's nearly impossible to determine if you're using multiple new things all at once.
Try to hang in there.  I hope your next appointment goes well. It's important to find a doctor you trust to help with this important aspect of your well-being and it's important to trust that the doctor is looking out for you--even if you don't always agree with the waiting part.
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10-31-2008, 09:51 AM
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Hyster Sister
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Hysterectomy: January 1st, 1984
Surgery Type: TAH
Ovaries: Removed both
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vivelle dot verses biest dosages?
You're right and thanks for reminding me (patience). The first Dr. I saw wanted to put me on thyroid but I didn't want to. I just had a feeling that I wanted to give the hormone cream a chance to balance things out a bit. I wasn't having typical thyroid issues. Bloodwork said I was low/normal but no symptoms.
One symptom I did have were cold hands and feet all the time. But those are gone now  So, I'm thinking the hormone cream is starting to work on certain things.
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