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Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream? Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

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Unread 02-08-2012, 03:15 AM
Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

I got my doctor to switch me from oral Biest to cream this week. (I take 1.25 ml every morning) I requested gel to apply to the external vaginal area as recommended in, "Stay Young & Sexy with Bio-Identical Hormone Replacement".

The compounding pharmacy suggested cream instead since they only have gel that contains alcohol and warned me it would be very drying. I didn't realize the cream would be dosed through daily vaginal applications. Today I tried it for the first time and it seemed fairly pointless as most of it seemed to wind up in my undies a few hours later. I thought I was done with messes and applicators and inconveniences like this!

I'll call the pharmacist in the AM but wanted to ask here if anyone else uses the vaginal cream application or has tried it. I'm also wondering if I could just apply it transdermally like I do my Pro-Gest cream (20 mg, twice a day), or even apply it to the external vaginal area like I was planning with the gel (the book recommends applying it to the labia).

I have had a headache for 4 days and insomnia for weeks that is making me insane. Trying to find BHRT specialists in my area that don't cost an arm & a leg is not proving easy at all. I am so fat right now and my hips look like they're exploding. RIght now I am wishing I'd never had my hysterectomy and especially not the oopherectomy.

I feel so foolish for all the research I did, planning to keep my ovaries so no research on HRT, then the morning of surgery told my doctor to take my ovaries because I was worried about ovarian cancer even though nobody in my family ever had it. I was planning on recovering from my hysterectomy as if from an appendectomy or something, where you heal and move on. What a foolish choice I made and what horrible risks I have placed myself in now for the rest of my life. I hate this so much. This is a very hard thing to try and love myself through.
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Unread 02-08-2012, 07:20 AM
Re: Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

I use a compounded version of estrogen. Instead of the cream (I hate the mess!!), I have a troche which is inserted. It's actually the same formula as the oral troche but without the flavoring and color. I can also use them transbuccally. I didn't absorb the creams well at levels never even got above menopausal levels. I now use the Vivelle Dot patch (.1 mg)along with the troches.

This "hormone specialist" that I was seeing awhile back did a lot of switching around with the compounded hormones. At one point I was started on a PLO gel that was applied to external genitalia. There's not a lot of real estate down there to spread the gel around. The gel doesn't really absorb well and leaves a lot of excess on the surface. Long story DH ended up with sky high estrogen levels.
Unread 02-19-2012, 01:40 AM
Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

Honey Im in the same boat as you! I wish I had left my ovaries too even though my fsh was 46 and I'm 47. I know 2 women with ovarian cancer and I was afraid too. I didn't have to have them out and I regret it also. I'm on biest 50 50 only problem I can't sleep and I'm now afraid of taking progesterone... My hair I guess will never be the same. I don't want to spend all I have on a hormone specialist which I'm afraid they will overdose me with a bunch of stuff I don't need. What do we do now?
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Unread 02-19-2012, 05:40 PM
Re: Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

Thank you so much for your replies and letting me know I am not alone, it helps so much somehow.

May I ask why you're afraid to take progesterone? Also what do you mean about your hair not being the same?

I keep trying to remind myself that God had a reason for laying it on my heart the morning of surgery. That it is still better to deal with the issues of HRT than to have my family lose me to a horrible death from ovarian cancer. We can't change it now, only move forward, right?

What is so frustrating is that there seems so little solid information, what works for one does not for another, and especially in my area there are no doctors, only "medi-spas" who offer Bhrt, and they are VERY expensive.

I went back to my oral BiEst (80/20, 1.25 mg) even though I know oral is the worst for side effects, the cream definitely wasn't working. My plan right now is to first get over this nasty cold/cough I caught last week, then do homeopathic HCG diet to lose about 50 lbs in 3-4 months (I did this last year, praying it will work again). Once I get this extra weight off, I will then take myself to a medispa for the pricey blood testing and hHRT pellets or whatever the heck they can do.

I am feeling so down, so fat, so old, so dried up, and not at all the way I expected to. I haven't had a period in almost two months, shouldn't I be excited about that?!
Unread 02-19-2012, 05:42 PM
Re: Anyone using Biest vaginal or skin cream?

Oh for sleeping, I wanted to mention my doctor gave me a script for Klonopin 0.5 mg. I can sleep again!!! Sometimes on reallly bad nights I will also take a Lortab and Soma but it sure beats the stress of sleep deprivation which also messes with our hormones! Most nights now though I am able to use just the Klonopin. Please ask your doctor for it, it is the only thing that has worked for me and may help you, too!

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