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  #1  
Unread 10-04-2009, 07:05 AM
lifetime lifting bans????

Is there anyone out there who has not received a lifetime lifting ban following cystocele, enterocele and/or rectocele repair?

I'm trying to determine which fix causes the lifetime lifting restrictions????

I need all 3 and have reluctantly agreed to lifting restrictions for up to 6 months but can't imagine for a lifetime... just not realistic for me... I will be seeing both the urogyno and gyno this week for answers but also wondering from experience who has or hasn't been given the restrictions and which procedures they had done...

Also curious if there is something like pelvic floor exercises and the like that can be used to lift the ban??? and if anyone broke the rules, did you have consequences ???

Thanks so much for your help!!!
Kathy
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Unread 10-04-2009, 05:51 PM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Hi Kathy I had a TVH with anterior & posterior repairs (cystocele & rectocele). I was told afterwards that to give the repairs the best possible chance of holding permanently, I needed to not lift over 25 pounds - ever. (The restriction during my recovery was much tighter: don't lift anything heavier than a gallon of milk.)

I have tried as best I can to abide by my DR's advice, and it's been almost 8 years now. I have a slight cystocele these days but nothing like what I had before... though I will probably at some point need another repair.

Properly and regularly done Kegel exercises can help keep the pelvic floor muscles well toned, but it's not a free pass to ignore the lifting restrictions. I don't think there is anything you can do that will prevent heavy lifting from doing damage to the repaired areas.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your surgery.

s,
-Linda
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Unread 10-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Linda,

Thank you for the response and sharing your experience... I'm very impressed that you've been able to maintain the weight restriction for 8 years... and imagine that only a small cystocele in this time is the result of your diligence ....

I was afraid this was going to be the answer I received....I'm wondering if any of the pharmaceutical companies have developed a cream that we can use to promote the elasticity and strength ... maybe a HGH sort of product... and I suppose like Ponce de Leon, I'll be searching for this one ...

I'll be asking my docs about this one as well... can't wait to see their reactions when I tell them I'm seeking a fountain of youth for my vagina

Thank you again,
Kathy
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Unread 10-04-2009, 07:29 PM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

(((Kathy))) we already have a 'fountain of youth' for the vagina.... it's vaginal estrogen products, of which there are many. They keep the vaginal nice and moist and elastic.

However, they won't prevent a bladder prolapse - that is more a function of the strength of the ligaments that hold it up. Unfortunately, there are many risk factors for bladder prolapse, one of which is *age*, but others of which include constipation, lifting heavy weights and being overweight among other things.

You can optimize all of the other risk factors but still be at risk if you continue to lift heavy weights - it's a lifestyle choice. I pass up the 50 lb bags of dog food these days in favor of smaller sizes unless one of my sons is with me to carry it, and I don't move furniture around by myself anymore (not only does that contribute to prolapse, but I once detached a retina doing that - just not worth it.)

s,
-Linda
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Unread 10-05-2009, 05:22 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Hi Kathy
I had anterior and posterior repairs in June and have lifelong lifting restrictions to give the best chance of NOT needing a repeat procedure.

J
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Unread 10-05-2009, 05:23 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Linda,

Thanks for the info... unfortunately even at 48 my estrogen levels are not low... must be genetic as my mother who passed away at 60 (heart) had still not gone through "the change"... and post-surgery this may change as I'll be left with one or no ovaries...

I still need to be tested for the connective tissue issues which may give an explanation for the multiple prolapses and I do have the other contributing factors with difficult births, stroke, heart and kidney problems from congenital defects... and either could be the cause

Anyway, just thought maybe a cream not containing est. or prog. might have surfaced that would help strengthen the vaginal walls... also investigating the connective tissue treatments in case this is indeed the culprit... but seems to be symptom treatment vs corrective measure..

Thanks again,
Kathy
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Unread 10-05-2009, 05:36 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

J

Thank you for sharing...

I suppose I'm in "denial"? .... I just don't know how I could limit my lifting to 20 or 25lbs.... I certainly don't want to jeopardize the doc's extensive work... and find myself in the same position again...

My doc's have been terrific with their plans to make this a one-time surgery for me by doing the abdominal sacral colpopexy and even applying autografts over site specific A&P repairs... and maybe this will restrengthen enough? ....and perhaps this is why neither informed me of the lifetime restrictions?(I learned of it researching here)... one of the things on my list to discuss this week....

Thanks again for your response,
Kathy
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Unread 10-05-2009, 06:01 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

The doctors express that lifetime lifting ban in a very impractical way Kathy. I knew about it before surgery and assumed it meant I could lift up to the limit regularly. Eventually.

I grilled my urogyn over it at my 6 week post-op appointment and found he couldn't answer many of my questions to help me to decide what to lift or what forces to exert in specific situations e.g Can I return to kayaking? Not sure - Perhaps if you paddle gently.... What weight should I exercise with? None preferably; Perhaps a couple of lbs would be ok from 6 mths post op.

I've concluded that the urogyn is good at cutting and stitching, but really only has formulaic answers to those questions. Eventually he started saying that he didn't know and that the standard advice was . . . what you already know. It doesn't make sense to me that I should have a maximum safe lift of around 25 lbs, but that I should not train for it. Does he think it is reasonable to avoid lifting as much as possible and hope that I get away with it on occasions when I cannot avoid the maximum lift ?

I've decided to consult a physiotherapist who is an expert on pelvic floor function in order to get some more specific guidelines and also to make the best recovery I can. I'm not planning to go outside the safe lift recommendations. I need a better description of what they are and a better indication of safe, effective exercise.

Jx
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Unread 10-05-2009, 06:55 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Jx,

I can hear your frustration...

It sounds like we need to limit lifting to isolation exercises... I had thought that following my recoup time, I would start out with the pyramids to regain that which would be lost over recovery as I don't typically do anymore as I don't need to build but maintain with reps... as far as the abdominals ... which will need the most work after my large vertical incision....perhaps light weighted crunches??? I guess there is a way to work around...

the thoughts of becoming an invalid from having the surgery have sent me reeling ... just can't imagine losing my independence or taking 3 times the amount of time required to do the everyday stuff whether at work or even grocery shopping and the like...

Best of luck in getting the answers to your questions! and thank you,
Kathy
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Unread 10-05-2009, 08:49 AM
Re: lifetime lifting bans????

Grocery shopping!! I didn't even think about that until now. I would really be up the creek. I have to shop for a family of 5 and always have a cart full of stuff. Lately I have been taking my teenage son with me just because I get exhausted and in pain from the entire ordeal so he takes over cart pushing half way through but shopping is "MY TIME"

I love doing it by myself and getting away for a while.
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