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Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP! Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

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Unread 11-10-2003, 07:37 AM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

Hello and huge 's to all my sisters!I am 4 months post-op from a TAH with right ovary left.For the last month and a half I have been suffering form bowel problems and pelvic pain,so I finally went back to see my gyn again.

Well.......I was told last Monday that the pelvic pain I've been experiencing is being caused from my intestines being attached to my pelvic floor and vaginal vault!Sisters,I really need some advice here as my Dr was not that much help.I'm not even sure how he could tell that by just doing a vaginal exam but this is what he diagonosed,and when I asked what we do about it he said nothing,that it wouldn't cause any problems.What the heck is he talking about,it's causing me pain and thats definetly a PROBLEM!My gyn also found out that I have a vaginal bacterial infection as well.So now I'm on 500mg Metronidazole twice a day for seven days.I'm hoping that some of this pain is being caused from the vag. infection and will disappear when the infection is gone.Any advice?I really can't take much more!The whole reason I had the hyst. was to get out of daily pain!:cry:

Please help if you can!

Love and Hugs to all
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Unread 11-10-2003, 08:24 AM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

I'd get another opinion. I've heard of something like intestines falling through the vaginal cuff when one sister had intercourse to soon but him telling you that there is nothing to be done is just ridiculous. Maybe he's covering up for a mistake he made I don't know. I don't think it should be brushed off. Please go and get another opinion with another trusted gyn. I had granulation at the vaginal cuff which is a scar tissue that's treated with silver nitrate. The dr. can see granulation when doing a vaginal exam. When they take out the cervix the top of the vagina is stitched shut. Imagine an empty toilet tube open at one end and closed at the other. If he could see intestines I don't know how that can be left alone. s

For those that don't know what granulation is.....When they take out your cervix, they stitch up your vagina sort of like how the end of a sock is stitched. This area at the top of the vagina is called the vaginal cuff. Sometimes when this heals, a little bit of peritoneal tissue comes down between the internal sutures and this is called granulation tissue. It is like internal scar tissue. The gyn will go at it with silver nitrate at the end of a cotton swab and "cauterize" this tissue since it can be sensitive, especially during intercourse. Sometimes it can cause bleeding or discharge. It takes 3-4 months for the internal sutures to be completely healed, so we have to continue to be careful how much we lift, push, pull, and strain for at least that long after the hysterectomy.
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Unread 11-10-2003, 09:13 AM
happy

I read your story, wow, awake, you are more brave than I.I would have wanted to see the uterus also.You didn't feel anything?I am glad I was asleep, I don't have any problems with local thankfully.I was never aware that you had options for that kind of thing.I never liked the idea of anyone or anything around my spine.Glad to hear that you are doing good.
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Unread 11-10-2003, 10:40 AM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

Hi Jeaniebean

You poor thing .. heres a for you .... I had some adhesions, and if your pelvis is swollen they do HURT !

What your DR says could well be true - it is a well known complication of hysterectomys, and is caused through adhesions. But he should follow up saying that he thinks it is this .. and to get a scan done etc .,., particularly if it is causing you pain. I urge you to go find another GYN, who will help. There are things that can be done - via lap, they can burn the adhesions away and then apply a 'barrier' to prevent them growing back again. However I am not a DR and the procedure may be more complicated than this. I urge you again .. go and get a second opinion - you owe it to yourself !

Thanks Toni xx
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Unread 11-10-2003, 08:14 PM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

A bump up for Jeaniebean's post.

Lynn
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Unread 11-10-2003, 11:36 PM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

Hi (((Jeaniebean))) I've moved your thread over here to the Road Less Traveled forum, where more ladies will have experience in dealing with the situation you're finding yourself in.

Did your DR mention the word "adhesions"? That is when scar tissue forms connecting things together as you heal from surgery. Often it starts when there is even the tiniest little bit of internal bleeding... the new tissue that forms there as the injured surfaces heal becomes like glue that can, for example, stick your bowels to your bladder or vaginal vault. Sometimes adhesions are not too painful, but are felt as more like a gentle tugging or pulling as you move in a certain direction. However, sometimes they can be quite painful. For example, bowel adhesions can hurt like the dickens as the mass passes through the area that is affected... this is why you might feel more or less pain relative to when you need to have a bm.

The difficulty with doing anything about adhesions is that often when surgery is performed to remove them, having the surgery can cause new ones to form, and so on, leading to an endless cycle of surgeries without much relief. However, if they become so severe that they start to obstruct the bowel then they would have to be dealt with. Before doing anything about yours, I would definitely consult a DR with experience in surgery for adhesions.

There is plenty of information in the threads in this forum about adhesions; also in the Road Less Traveled Resources forum. And www.adhesions.org is a great site with tons of helpful information.

I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this problem, as well as the vaginal infection - ouch! I hope the Metronidazole will do the trick there. Hang in there, sweetie! And keep us informed about how you're doing, OK?

s,
-Linda
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Unread 11-11-2003, 01:42 PM
Intestines Attached To Vaginal Vault.....Anyone Else..PLEASE HELP!

(((Jeaniebean))),
Big ((hugs)) I also suffer from some very pain caused by Adhesions...mine have my Intestines adhered to my Vaginal cuff & Pelvic floor as well. Mine cause me a great deal of pain w/ BM's, Intercourse, digestion of food...it's worse for me in the mornings when things have settled down into one place for so long...standing up straight often brings me to my knees :cry: I find if I can stomach enough water to get things moving along w/some walking it helps *loosen* things up & decrease the pain. I underwent 2 additional surgeries Post Hyst for complications from Adhesions. The last one was an emergency for 2 Total Bowel Obstructions...a very serious, life-threatening situation Many times Drs. will refuse to operate to remove non-life threatening Adhesions because of the increased risk of further formation as ((Linda)) stated above. Also if they've gotten to the point of becoming so extensive & dense that it poses a threat of nicking/slicing an organ. In this situation....Surgeons are unable to differentiate organs due to the Adhesions overlying the pelvic/abdominal area & wrapping around the organs themselves. In my case, after consulting w/ several Surgeons & Specialists I was advised against any further surgery. The risks they posed far outweighed the slim chance of helping..the odds were against me & that in all likelihood I would come out w/ worsened damage, greater Adhesions & more pain...No Thanks!
We are all different tho..some of our bodies form more Adhesions than others, some may have a large amount of Adhesions & never experience 1 symptom, these ones are usually found *accidently* during another surgery...

Pls continue to Research, ask questions such as you are, know your options as well as the potential risks of each. Here are some excellent, informative links concerning Adhesions & their treatment:

Serch for a cure:
http://www.obgyn.net/displaytranscri...GL2002-Sawhney

PELVIC ADHESIONS:
https://www.hystersisters.com/vb2/sho...hreadid=100729

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Because adhesions are quite common following surgery, and potentially can result in serious complications, its very important to discuss them prior to any abdominal or pelvic operation. Learn all you can about what your surgeon plans to do to help prevent adhesions.
What Should I Ask My Doctor About Adhesions?

Adhesions are commonly associated w/Chronic Pelvic Pain:

Abdominal & Pelvic Adhesions~Health hints..Info:

Good Luck in finding some answers & relief to your pain (((Jeaniebean))) Pls keep us posted on how your doing...(((hugs)))
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