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Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP! Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!

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Unread 01-13-2004, 09:41 AM
Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!

I had a TAH BSO on 11/02....
I have spent the better part of the past six months, after a nightmare experience in the ER for what they thought were kidney stones....(after ruling out appendicitis). I had an IVP and CT scan, both negative, many shots of morphine, which didn't even take the edge off of the incredible pain. After release from the hospital, I saw a urologist several times for follow up and tests and no evidence of kidney stones have been found.
Next, I went to a gastroenterologist for a small bowel x-ray and colonoscopy which were both completely normal and negative findings for obstruction and cancers etc.
But the pain still persists. It comes without warning as a burning lower right quadrant cramp and then I get this awful rectal pressure with it. So far the intense pain that sent me to the hospital has not returned, but on a scale of 10..I would call it a 4-5.
I am seeing my GYN for an annual exam next week.
Does anyone have any insight as to what this pain is? I know that adhesions aren't visible typically unless the dr does a laparoscopy.
Thanks for letting me go on!!
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Unread 01-13-2004, 10:15 AM
Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!


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Unread 01-13-2004, 10:37 AM
Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!

Oh (((Jodi)))
I'm sorry things have been so bad for you w/o any relief Has anyone mentioned the possibility of Pain Mgmt until they can find some resolve for these ongoing issues & such severe pain? If not, maybe this is something you can inquire into?

I suffer from some pretty extensive Adhesions that cause me severe pain levels at times. Luckily, thru Pain Mgmt I have been able to tolerate the pain better
Some of the pain I experience sounds similar to what you describe. BM's for me are a nightmare. The pain sears thru my Pelvic region, enough to often make me scream or bring me to tears. I have made several trips to the ER when it has become uncontrollable. My Bowels & Intestines kink easily & are the home to a large amount of my own Scar tissue. The pain I experience with the BM's is thot to be caused by may intestines adhered to my Pelvic sidewall's & vaginal cuff. I have Nerve damage in my cuff area that creates a lot of pain for me also.
Adhesions can be tricky in getting a dx & treatment. The only sure way to find them is thru surgery/going in, as most of the time they are not seen on imaging tests such as X-rays, MRI's & CT Scans. If they are obstructing or distorting an area of Intestine or pulling something clearly out of place the distortion or location can be noted. Surgery, Trauma, Endo & Infection all can create Adhesions...they are our bodies *natural* defense mechanism. So many times more surgery can create more Adhesions....more Adhesions can mean more surgery & more PAIN <sigh> It can become a quite vicious cycle many times leaving the patient in an inoperable condition due to the amount of damage & scarring created by multiple surgical attempts at removing them & in a lot more pain.
Any time surgery is suggested as a treatment option for them it should be weighed considerably, & only after other options have failed. There is no cure with a 100% success rate...very few that carry even half that we are left to depend on the skill level, knowledge & success rate of a Surgeon. Here are a few links that contain some excellent info on Adhesions: symptoms, dx, treatment & possible prevention!
Hopefully, they can help provide you some further info & insight on them:

If the adhesions are extensive, and the patient has undergone previous adhesion surgery that failed, I have taken an unorthodox approach to such individuals. Because adhesions begin to form almost immediately, along with the healing process involving the raw anterior abdominal wall, I have in special situations recommended a repeat laparoscopy in one week. At this point, the "new" adhesions are flimsy, soft, do not contain a blood supply, and can be swept away with minimal tissue injury, compared to a conventional adhesiolysis (freeing the adhesions surgically) of old adhesions that are dense, very adherent, and bloody. This is performed in an outpatient setting, and usually takes but a few minutes, compared to the time involved dealing with extensive, dense old adhesions
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Good Luck ((Jody)) Pls keep us posted on how your doing! My prayers will be with you that you can find some much needed relief & answers to your pain soon...........((((hugs))))
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Unread 01-14-2004, 11:20 AM
Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!

Thanks so much, Sheri!
I appreciate the links to additional info. I will continue to update my progress after I visit the GYN next week!

Unread 01-14-2004, 11:26 AM
Adhesions? or are they Kidney Stones?...HELP!

Your very welcome ((Jody)) Good Luck


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