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Unread 01-02-2005, 08:37 AM
Joint pain and bone spurs

Hi everybody!
I am 40 years old, a mother of two very active boys (5 and 8)and I had a complete hysterectomy in July 2003. I fought my way thru the weightgain (20lbs.) and the hormone jungle. I am big on vitamins and natural remedies and found a combination of Chastetree Berry and Wild Yams that keep the hotflashes away. Within 6-8 months of the surgery I began having joint pains, first in my elbows, then my wrists, now there isn't a joint that doesn't hurt, especially in the mornings. On my fingers I am now getting very painful "bumps" , supposively calcifications.
I can keep the joint pain in check with MSM, a natural sulphur, but it treats the symptoms, not the cause.
I have been reading a lot and understand that estrogen is also a "vehicle" for calcium and helps it go where it is needed. If no estrogen is available, the calcium may go back to the areas of the growth plates from childhood, which could explain my bumpy bone spurs. SO I started taking Evening Primrose Oil, since the GLA is supposed to have the same properties as estrogen. So far I haven't had any improvements. I also take fish oil and flax, hoping it would help my joints, but I still wake up miserable every morning and then "manage" during the day. I have always been a very active person. I love to jog, but I can't even squat without someone pulling me back up. I may be 40, but I think it's a little early for such severe arthritis.
I only know of a few women with similar issues after a complete Hysterectomy and we all treat the symptoms because noone knows how to tackle the cause.
There has got to be something else my body is lacking?????
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Unread 01-02-2005, 10:15 AM
Joint pain and bone spurs

oh dear I wish I could be alittle more encouraging .. but my former lecturer is in or approaching menopause and she recvently had surgery for bone spurs

shes into alrternative medicine but I dont know if she tried anything before resorting to surgery

(((HUGS))) I hope you get relief sounds uncomfortable
Unread 01-02-2005, 10:49 AM
Joint pain and bone spurs

Demi, '
I am sorry you are going through this. Have you been to see a doc about the joint pain and bone spurs?
I did some research on meno and found that it can cause joint pain but I don't remember reading anything about bone spurs. I hope you find some relief and some answers to help fix the problem.
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Unread 01-02-2005, 12:40 PM
Joint pain and bone spurs

Dear Demi,

I am sorry to hear that you are suffering with the joint pain and bone spurs since your hysterectomy. I am 34 and have developed early onset osteoarthritis in my spine (cervical spondylosis) and toes since my hysterectomy this May. I suffer from a connective tissue disorder and already have Grade IV osteoarthritis in both knees, so this may always have been on the cards for me, but I can't help wondering if going through the surgical menopause has added to my problems. Before my hyst I had 10 monthly injections through my stomach of Zoladex that put me into a state of chemical menopause (like Lupron in the U.S.) and I noticed the increase in my joint pain the morning after my very first injection. Things have just got worse and worse since then, and a couple of months ago the tendon on my middle left finger just spontaneously ruptured taking the bone off the tip with it, and I have developed a prolapse of some kind too as well as vitreous detachment in both eyes. My body just seems to be literally falling apart and I feel like I am approaching 75 rather than 35!!

Like you, my doctors are only treating my symptoms and I am on 15 pain meds a day at the moment and start a course of core stability physiotherapy on January 12th. A number of my health problems seem to have been excacerbated or caused by my hysterectomy (or so I believe) but it seems each specialist only looks at their individual body part, rather than the whole picture.

I hope that your situation improves soon and you do not develop arthritis.

Take care,

Unread 01-02-2005, 06:40 PM
Joint pain and bone spurs


I don't want to overstep my bounds, but have you thought that some of the natural herbs, etc. might be causing your joint pain. I don't know to much about what you are taking, but maybe it's not agreeing with your body chemistry. (Like an allergic reaction).

I'm allergic to so much stuff...I'm leery of taking anything different.

You might want to eliminate one at a time and see if you get any better.

Just a thought, not advice.

Unread 01-02-2005, 08:19 PM
Joint pain and bone spurs

Hi ((((Demi))), I'm so sorry you're having such problems with the joint pains and the bone spurs

I've been having problems with joint pains since before my hyst. Immediately after my hyst, while my ovaries were on strike, they intensified tremendously, but it the pain levelled off once my ovaries came back to work.

In July 2002, 18 months after my hyst, I had a very sudden and very intense flare of arthritic pain. After running a battery of tests, it was determined that I was dealing with "Arthritic Pain", since all the tests were negative. For a while, I managed the pain with Celebrex but stopped taking it about a year later.

Lately, as I'm heading into menopause, the pain has been returning, but tends to be widespread to just aobut all joints. Since I've also been having other menopausal symptoms and my doctor is reluctant to prescribe HRT, I've been trying to manage my symptoms (hot flashes, night sweats, brain fog, dizzy spells, mood swings and, worst of all, insomnia in addition to the joint pains) with natural products.

In September, after some research as to what was the best combination of natural supplements, I started the following regimen:
  • Magnecium and Calcium, twice a day
  • Evening Primrose Oil with Vitamine E. Each capsule contains 500 mg of EPO and 15 IU of Vitamin E. I take 2 capsules, twice a day. I could take 4 more capsules.
  • Black Cohosh- 40 mg - I take 2 capsules, twice a day.
  • Valerian Root - 400 mg - I take 3 capsules in the evening.
  • Glucosamine - 750 mgs, 2 times a day.
  • Ginkgo Biloba

I just added Ginseng to the above list, as I've been having continued problems with brain

I'm hoping that the combination will not only manage the symptoms, but will also help ward off bone deterioration and heart problems.

I do hope that you find answers and relief. Please, do keep us posted.

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