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Unread 03-17-2005, 12:59 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I'm almost 6 weeks post op & am recovering well, but my own dr didn't close & whoever did misaligned my incision. My dr took full responsibility since he was the surgeon & ins is going to pay for plastic surgery after I am healed, BUT there is something I wasn't aware of before surgery. I was told by a friend in the medical field that you can sign a paper refusing to have a resident touch you during surgery. I don't know if it was a resident or not that actually closed, but I think if I ever have surgery again, I will ask about that waiver for sure.
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Unread 03-17-2005, 04:51 AM

i signed a paper to ALLOW residents to work on me. They are closely supervised and i feel that is the only way they are going to learn to do the right thing. When i had my youngest son, i developed HELLP syndrome, something very few people know about and so about 14 residents in the OR learned about HELLP and will prayfully recognize it when a pregnant patient comes in with the symptoms. I would check with hospital, i had to sign a paper to ALLOW, if i didn't sign, they couldn't.
Unread 03-17-2005, 05:06 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

Hi ocfem - I'm sorry to hear that you had that happen - it's inexcusable, but I think I would be looking more in the direction of my Doc as the one beiing responsible - whether or not he was the one doing the closing. (and I would have already changed Doc's if that happened to me.)

I would like to put in a good word for resident doctors everywhere - I sure hate to see them slammed - and say that I went to a teaching hospital, and my resident Doc was a 30 year old woman, assisted by two younger interns, and all were overseen by the head of the OB/GYN Department, who was standing next to them in surgery.

I had a TAH w/vertical, hairline incision sewn from inside out invisibly - by the INTERN, and all went perfectly, with no complications from surgery.

S to you, and I hope you get it all resolved soon.
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Unread 03-17-2005, 05:30 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I go back to the dr next week to see if i am having a vaginal hyst. or not. if so i do not want any students or a resident touching me, no students there in the room at all. Sorry but i can't afford any mishaps down there. My daughter is a nursing student and i feel this way about it, it's my body and besides maybe if surgery was anywhere else but there i would allow. To me anything that involves stirrups is violating . Don't get me wrong i know you have to for your health and i've never missed and exam its just how i feel. Hate being a girl.
Unread 03-17-2005, 07:03 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I work in a teaching hospital - or actually in an office at a teaching hospital. I use to feel the same way about not wanting students - md, nursing or anything - to take care of me. I now understand they are closely supervised and this is the only way for them to learn - the best doctors in the world were once residents. I'm sorry this happened to you but it really is rare.
Unread 03-17-2005, 07:13 AM
remember one thing

your md was once a resident and if no one let them assist, they wouldn't be where they are now.

And after all the indiginities of hellp syndrome, i lost that sense of modesty i had before. I was a rape victim who was paranoid of others touching me. Then i had HELLP. ONLY good thing about Hellp besides me surviving is that i lost that sense of fear of others seeing me nekkid!!!
Unread 03-17-2005, 08:08 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I wasn't in a teaching hospital, but thought I'd share my perspective on a similar situation while in the hospital. I had two student nurses training and assigned to my care with a nursing instructor from the college. The nurse instructor had them providing all the care with her looking on and answering questions. At first I was a little scared, kind of felt a little like a test tube, but I have to say all in all it ended up being a great experience. I got better care that evening then any other. They were trained to give injections, change my dressing, check my catheter, vitals, and keeping me comfortable. They took longer because they asked lots of questions of their instructor, but they spent extra time on everything and because of that were probably a little more in tune with me and my needs. They were also more concerned about my comfort then the other nurses I'd had. I was glad that they had the opportunity to work with me.

I'm so sorry someone closed you up wrong. I think I would probably discuss this further with your MD, finding out who sewed you up wrong and making sure that he is responsible to see that they don't do that again. Maybe they need more training? Maybe it wasn't even a student? It's easy for me to say that I would let teaching students work on me because I didn't have the same experience as you, but I can tell you that I've been through a situation with an experienced MD who messed up during surgery, so it happens either way you look at it.
Unread 03-17-2005, 10:23 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

Now this is why I did not go to med school! I think I would be fabulous with the bedside manner, diagnosis, delivering babies, prescribing medications, but boy do I suck at sewing!
Unread 03-17-2005, 10:42 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I'm not saying that a resident is the one that closed. I was just unaware that we had that option. I know they all have to learn, but I also think we need to have the option.

I had a bad experience with a resident years ago when I had an ovarian cyst. I was only 21 & having severe pain during intercourse, so my sister pushed me to go to the dr. I saw a resident & she said she didn't find anything wrong. I said there has to be, this isn't normal, so she checked me again. Then she asked if I was constipated, because she felt a mass up there, but that was it. Thank goodness, I didn't just take her word & pushed for her to get a second opinion from the head dr. Right away he discovered the GRAPEFRUIT sized cyst (I guess that was the mass that she thought was constipation!) and wanted to do surgery right away, (he wanted to admit me THAT day) because they didn't know if it was cancer & also because it can burst. I wasn't ready for surgery that soon, but had it a few weeks later.
Unread 03-17-2005, 11:25 AM
Refusing To Have Resident Touch You During Surgery

I have no problems what so ever having residents involved in my health care. When they are new, they are well supervised. As they become more experienced, the have less direct supervision but still everything they do is reviewed. I have had numerous experiences with residents. I've only had one experience that wasn't good. And even that wasn't terrible and was easily addressed.

If nobody ever let a resident participate in their health care, who would you want to be your Dr?

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