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Unread 04-03-2001, 07:35 AM
estrogen not soy based?!

Hi Ladies

I spent over two hours with my pharmacist yesterday (also a friend of mine) trying to find an estrogen that's NOT soy based. He couldn't find any aside from Premarin which gives me hives. I'm allergic to soy. Does anyone know of a brand name of one that doesn't contain soy? All of the regular ones that I've heard about...vagi-fem, vivelle, cenestin, estrace, climara etc all have at least some soy in them and I can't take them. I still have one ovary and with the help of natural progesterone cream am feeling ok but my gyn has told me that I have some vaginal atrophy and I just think that I'd feel better on a tiny bit of estrogen. I guess that I'm kind of hoping that someone else has already been through this part of the jungle and can put me on the right path. Thanks!
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Unread 04-03-2001, 07:54 AM
estrogen not soy based?!

I might have some help, but I also have a question. I had a TAH and still have my right ovary. I am taking .5 clamarin and have been for about 2 months. It is working very well with no side effects that I have noticed. I am also taking testosterone cream for a low libido and it is also working quite well. I crashed last week though for the first time and now am fine again. I have a feeling that the one ovary ovulated and caused some fluctuation in my estrogen levels. I am curious why you use the progesterone cream if you no longer have a uterus. Most studies show that you do not need it if uterine cancer is not an issue and that they only prescribe it to women going through menopause and who are using estrogen alone. Any thoughts? Thanks Sydney
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Unread 04-03-2001, 08:05 AM
estrogen not soy based?!

Hi there, I too am allergic to soy and am using the birth control pill for hrt which contains synthetic estrogen (ethinyl estradiol) which is not derived from soy.....it has worked quite well for me and you can start out on a real low dose......there is even something called Femhrt that is the same ingredients as the b/c pill but in a very low dose and because it's synthetic it is much stronger so you don't need as much!!

Hope this helps
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Unread 04-03-2001, 02:48 PM
estrogen not soy based?!

Hi Dealande,

I am doing an elimination kind of thing to determine if I too am alergic to soy. I seem to remember that you had problems with itch (me too). How did you finally figure out that it was a soy allergy. Sorry I am no help to you right now but I sure would appreciate any knowledge that you can send my way. thanks.
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Unread 04-03-2001, 03:04 PM
estrogen not soy based?!

Norma,
For me figuring out it was soy was pretty easy. I had tried soy milk and then soy tablets and got a nasty infection and itched. So I stopped them. Then my gyn gave me estradiol patches (esclim and climara) and within two days the itch was back. Took off the patch and once the soy got out of my system the itch went away. I've found that I can tolerate a little bit (like if it's found in foods) but in any type of heavy concentration then I'm a huge itch! I hope this helps!

Gidge,
thanks for the bc pill suggestion! I mentioned that to my pharmacist yesterday and he said that most of them have soy in them but I'm definitely going to ask about the ones you mentioned. Do they take care of the migraines and vaginal atrophy?

Sydney,
I started taking the progesterone cream about a year ago. My gyn also told me to not bother with it but if I go off of it then I get REALLY bad menopausal symptoms. I'm not sure why. I think that it might be becasue I was estrogen dominant for so long. Also...I had my hyst for endometriosis and am hoping/praying that by using the cream it will keep any endo I've got left from acting up. "What your Doctor may not tell you about Premenopause" by John Lee is a really good book about the benefits of natural progesterone cream. I'm also not too sure if my remaining ovary is working or not...I am getting cyclical migraines (got one now...oh what fun) but virtually no hot flashes etc. I hope this helps!
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Unread 04-03-2001, 06:09 PM
estrogen not soy based?!

Dealande

I have one final question. How long did it take for you to get the soy out of your system? I'm trying to determine if it is the soy or blood pressure meds that are causing my problems. Itchy, Itchy, Itchy!!!

Thanks for your help.
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Unread 04-04-2001, 07:32 AM
estrogen not soy based?!

Norma,
I just went back through my journal and it took about a week to get the itchies gone completely...ugh! But I did start feeling "better" within a day or two. Now...I'd only been taking the patches for a little over a week so I don't know if it would take you longer since you've been on the soy stuff longer. Good luck!!!
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Unread 04-04-2001, 08:21 AM
estrogen not soy based?!

It's so hard because ALOT of medications are "bound" with soy, it's a cheap filler, so it's really hard to avoid.

My birth control pill has no soy in it and I am able to tolerate it......to my knowledge no ethinyl estradiol is derived from soy........but I could be wrong??
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