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Unread 01-16-2006, 07:57 AM
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I have been trying to be very patient. My gyn wants me to get my bladder figured out (I pee 20-30 times a day and retain and it's prolapsed again) before we proceed with more tests to see if possibly I can have my rectocele repaired. Anyway I told my dh that for my New Years resolution I would try to get some kind of lubrication so we could do the deed without drying out too much - I called for an appointment couldn't get one until the 12th (my doctor didn't have an opening until the end of Feb) - ok - well had a yeast infection the week before - so took care of that. I See this new doctor - who examines me and says - that the reason I have pain during intercourse is that I have IBS and my colon is very irritated. HUH. I went in for vaginal dryness. So I was nice and listened to him and he gave me a sheet on IBS - now I have had my IBS under control for about 3 years - I have no symptoms. I have cut out every irritant known and it doesn't bother me anymore unless I eat the wrong thing.
So I say what does that have to do with vaginal dryness? He says 'take care of the IBS' and then come back. I say no I'm not leaving without something - I promised my dh. So then I ask if maybe I can try estogen creme or something and he says 'oh sure that won't hurt' What a jerk. I will make sure I never see him again.
Anyway we try yesterday - my insides do hurt - could that jerk be right? And if so what do I do about it? Dh could only go part way in with no pain for me and he is not large. Afterward my side (about where my left ovary is) was so sore for about 6 hours. Now what do I do? I could never have slept with that pain. We hadn't done anything in over 2 months could that be why? I do have a small cyst on my left ovary - could that be it? I hate my insides - they are so messed up. Thanks for letting me vent - I am soooooooo frustrated.
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Unread 01-16-2006, 08:35 AM

Hi there,
I know what you mean about doctor's being jerks! <admin. note: please, no DR bashing > My GYN tried to pass that IBS junk on me also, I never had it, never had ANY problems until I had this surgery!!!! Anyway, a doctor I saw last month told me that my vagnial cuff, where they sew you shut after they remove the uterus, was so full of scar tissue that he was shocked I could have sex at all!!! Now, I don't have my ovaries (second biggest mistake of my life!) and not doing any HRT, so I am also "dry". My hubby and I use k-y warming gel. It really helps, I mean we use ALOT of it, on both of us. We don't have sex very often, maybe once a month, but it doesn't hurt. Try this stuff, and stay in the "flat on your back" position, without too much foreplay there. Also, you may want to try the sexual dysfuntion board. Good Luck, I know how frustrating all this is. Hubby is afraid to cause you more pain, so it becomes a vicious circle!
Unread 01-16-2006, 05:15 PM
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Thanks for answering - unfortunately I have tried the ky gel, warming gel, replens and astroglide. I have been told to try the lubricant sold on this website. I must say - that we only had to 'reapply' once - that is unusual - maybe the estrogen creme is working already - don't know. All I know is my dh is ready again and I am so not - my side hurts again tonight.
Did you have the scar tissue removed - did it cause any pain?
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Unread 01-16-2006, 07:18 PM
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Hi Bowlinggrr, I have had scar tissue freed up through MFR--myofascial release bodywork. It's painful, expensive and for me has taken a year of twice monthly sessions, but so worth it. I have had dramatic improvements and would do it again in a heartbeat. Just be sure you find a well-trained MFR bodyworker!Shelley
Unread 01-17-2006, 10:23 AM
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Have you talked to any doctors about Pelvic Floor Dysfunction? I have a book called "The Intersitial Cystitis Survival Guide" by Dr. Robert Moldwin. He talks about PFD. There is a lot of info in there. PFD is associated with pelvic pain/urinary retention, frequency, urgency/IBS/pain after intercourse. I have been diagnosed with IC and PFD. I believe that PFD is the cause of most of my problems. I went through physical therapy with a therapist who specialises in women's health and now I am doing Yoga. I still have some issues but I feel a lot better.
I also use vaginal estrogen cream. It has helped my urinary tract and some dryness issues. Don't give up! It will take some time but it should get better. Check into PFD. I was shocked when I read about it because I had so many of the symptoms but I had never heard of it.
Good Luck!
Unread 01-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Thank you so much, I had all the symptoms of PFD - but now what do I do with that info? I'm also wondering if fixing my cystocele and rectocele will help with the symptoms. I guess I can add this to my list - hopefully my doctor has heard of this. I have been through a bio-feedback program through a colorectal doctor about 4 years ago - I never improved at all - although I did learn that I do kegals correctly. Thanks again - that was very informative.
Unread 01-19-2006, 10:37 AM
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PFD can be a vicious cycle. Any pelvic inflammation can make it worse and the spastic muscles can make the inflammation worse. Your doctor has surely heard of it. There are therapies. I went to a Physical Therapist who specialises in women's health. She worked me over and gave me exercises to do. (Bent leg lifts etc.) I am also taking Gentle Yoga now. That is really helping me. It stretches, strengthens and relaxes your muscles, especially your core muscles. Of course you want to work on your other issues also. It takes time and work. It can be very frustrating.
Another way to relax those muscles is to take a 15 minute warm bath in Epsom Salts. Don't use irritating bath products. That might be just the thing to help you have more comfortable sex.
Good Luck!
Unread 01-19-2006, 02:49 PM
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Have you thought about adhesions?
Unread 01-20-2006, 10:51 AM
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I have thought about adhesions - but is there any way of knowing without further surgery?
Unread 01-20-2006, 02:29 PM
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Not really, adhesions rarely show up in any tests. It can be a process of elimination. I've had problems for many years now and everyone suspected adhesions because we couldn't find any other reason for the continued pain and swelling. My doctor finally agreed to do a lap, and no adhesions were found. So, adhesions aren't always the cause either. The Road sure isn't easy.

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