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Unread 02-03-2006, 02:33 PM
Retrocele-need Some Help

These pelvic issues are so complicated because of how
the nerves are so inter-related, and you can get referred pain. Since your Dr. said you had a rectocele
you probably do have prolapses, and that is really what
these cele's are, just the intestines pushing down on
the pelvic floor and you can get the bulges in different
places, but I felt like there was a baby's head in my
vagina, and felt like I was sitting on a lump, I was very
miserable. You definitely need to get checked out
by a good specialist, a Uro/Gyn. I had so much pain
I am not sure if it was back pain, but there was a lot
of rectal pain, and vagina pain. Do you feel pressure?
By-the-way I had numerous exams by several people
and nobody found the enterocele, it was found immediately by the pelvic floor Dr. He found it by rectal
exam. I also had 2 surgeries and it wasn't found then, either.
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Unread 02-03-2006, 02:36 PM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Boy...I think everyone has different feelings and symptoms with these things. I did have back ache, but I would not say that was the main symptom with my grade 3 celes. I didn't even know I had the enterocele to tell you the truth, but with my vaginal vault prolapse being what it was all the celes were grade 3. What I felt and could see was the bulge in my vagina. Being a grade 3 it was even with the opening. Grade 4 is hanging all the way out. If you haven't already done this get a mirror and put one leg up on something like the toilet stool or edge of the bathtub and you will see your cystocele and rectocele if it is very bad. There was definitely a difference in how intercourse felt then as opposed to how it feels now (it feels better now). It was hard to evacuate all the way...and hard to pee.

Thanks Susan for the olive oil info.
Unread 02-04-2006, 12:12 AM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Thanks everyone! Yes, I do feel pressure.My problem is that nothing protrudes obviously to match the discomfort I describe. It is because it did all show up in theatre at my two previous operations that this consultant is prepared to go for it again.
Mind you, I felt something 'come down' after a bad cough last May and have had 3 months intensive phsio - even muscle stimulation - to try to alleviate the discomfort. I have thought all along however that this is not a 'sensation' but that an organ is out of place and I am sitting on something tangible like yes, a baby's head (Heaven forbid, at 52!!!)
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Unread 02-04-2006, 08:43 AM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Scriv, I didn't see anything falling out either, but
never-the-less I did have an enterocele. I have continued to feel discomfort in the rectal area, and
felt like I had a rectocele and nobody can make of
their mind if I do, but I saw a colon Dr. and she
didn't believe that I have one, and if I do it is not
bad enough for surgery. Anyway she prescribed a
rectal compound that is suppose to help some of these
pelvic problems, and low and behold I do think that it
has helped, the pressure has improved and so has the
pain, and I am not absolutely sure how it works, but
it is something new, I think. It is suppose to take
6 wks, to improve things, but it would certainly
not hurt to give it a try, it would beat surgery. The Pharmacist said they had seen real good results from it. I was very skeptical, but went ahead and tried it,
and I do think it has helped.
She also put me on a specific Metamucil regiment, to
go along with it.
By-the-way why didn't they fix if they saw it during
Unread 02-04-2006, 02:21 PM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Girls, I don't think you are going to see an enterocele protruding out, but you will definitely see a cystocele and rectocele if it is very bad.
Unread 02-04-2006, 02:26 PM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Here's a good article about the stages. Warning! Graphic pictures!
Unread 02-04-2006, 03:30 PM
Retrocele-need Some Help

Oh heck..just viewed those pictures. I have nothing like that, in fact nothing really protrudes. The anus bulges, but not like that.

I meant that they found what I was complaining about in theatre, The first time it was mainly a cystocele, the second time it was a cysotecel wwith the uterus down...nd this time I hope they find a rectocele or enterocele worth repairing. Like I said, I am worried that haemhorrhoids are masking the symptoms.

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