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  #441  
Unread 06-07-2007, 05:59 PM
TLH May 4th - late report of my experience

I've written this summary of my experience because I could not find a similar summary before my surgery and would have loved to be able to read about another person's experience before having the surgery. I hope this account helps others.

My experience with a TLH (total laparoscopic hysterectomy), retaining ovaries.

I am 39 years old and began having heavy irregular periods, breakthrough bleeding, and terrible cramping for over a year. I tried using the pill to help the symptoms but it did not work. I was diagnosed withfibroids (several both inside and outside the uterus) via ultrasound-- my uterus was about the size of a 12 week pregnancy. I decided on hysterectomy because I was finished with childbearing, did not want to have repeat procedures and I found a doctor who specialized in minimally invasive surgery that would allow me to recover easier and faster than a standard abdominal procedure.


Pre Op Visit

Only ate a liquid diet all day-- I did allow myself milk in my coffee and a soy milk protein drink in the morning. These are not usually part of a true liquid diet,but I had been given no specific instructions about a liquid diet by the doctor. Thepre op was in the late afternoon and when I arrived the office was pretty chaotic. The clinic nurse put the thermometer in my mouth without the sanitary cover!

Another nurse finished recording my vital signs. I lost 5 pounds since February (yea)! I have been trying to lose weight since Dec 2006 when myfibroids were diagnosed. I brought DH back in time to see the doctor. Then we got a big shock. In December along with my diagnosis offibroids, I had a bad pap smear (AGUS NOS). This required an ECC and an endometrial biopsy. They were done by my regular GYN and came back negative. But the surgeon I was seeing was still worried something was missed. She had consulted with oncologists about my case and they said she should do another pap smear and biopsy before surgery. All I could think was what am I going to do if I can't have surgery tomorrow. It takes months to get prepared for this type of thing. And of course here I was worrying about cancer again. The doctor scheduled me for the second surgery of the day and sent me home to do the bowel prep etc.

Ok- it is true what people say the bowel prep is one of the worst parts of this whole experience. I did not find that the phospho soda tasted bad (I put mine in ginger ale and slugged it like a college student binge drinking jello shots)...it was just very salty and had a weird aftertaste. Drink quickly and move on! The worst part of bowel prep was the sore rear end afterwards--- I did not buy gentleflushable wipes. That was a mistake.

Its easy to stick to the rule about not eating after a certain time--- you won't want to eat after the bowel prep. If you are allowed fluids try to drink up until the cutoff time because you don't want to be dehydrated the next day. Always follow your doctor's instructions.

That night I had to shower with antibacterial soap they gave me at the hospital and do the same in the morning.

In the morning I got up and said goodbye to my son, my parents drove him to school. We did not have to go to the hospital until 10am. Before showering I did the enema (geez enough already with the bowels!!) that gave me a stomach cramp or two but was over quickly.

At the hospital we checked in and were directed to the pre-op waiting area. This room was filled with lots of lost looking men walking around with clear bags filled with their significant other's belongings. They looked so sad and all I could think was that was going to be my DH soon!
I was still uncertain about my new pap smear and biopsy-- but guessed that since no one called in the early hours to cancel that things wereok.

The pre-op nurse called me in to take my vitals-- sat me in a giant chair, I felt like Lily Tomlin in the "incredible shrinking woman". then sent me to give a urine sample. That was like getting blood from a stone.

Back to the waiting room for less than a minute before they called us both back. The nurse put us in another room with a different chair, told me to take it all off and put on the hospital gown, hose, slipper socks and funny hat, told DH that his job was opening the door when I was finished dressing. We had a good laugh about the white pressure hose- DH saying they were sexy etc. I got dressed and we opened the door.

The parade of people began soon after. First a nurse put an needle for an IV in both of my hands, connecting only one to to an actual IV drip. They were giving me fluid andpepcid. Apparently they tilt you so much for the surgery that the pepcid helps prevent acid reflux afterwards. It worked- I did not have a problem with reflux after surgery.

Then the anesthesiologist stopped by to ask about my medical history and my neck flexibility (for airway insertion), the nurse anesthetist stopped by as well and explained the full procedure and all risks. I was happy to learn that the bladder catheter and respirator were to be put in after I was under anesthesia.

The surgeon arrived and leaned around the anesthesiology people to give me the thumbs up!! No cancer detected, whew! It was a relief to see her and to know everything wasok . She had two residents who also introduced themselves. Everyone was cheerful patient and friendly--it really helped put me at ease.

Be prepared to repeat many times the type of operation you are having-- this is because everyone involved must ensure that they are aware and that you are aware of all the plans- to prevent medical errors and misunderstandings.

After all the prep was done they let me say good bye to my husband and then wheeled me in the chair to the operating room. I remember seeing the huge lights and all the equipment and that's about it! Someone put the happy juice into my IV and I had a good sleep.

Four hours later...either the anesthesia nurse or the surgical resident was saying my name and asking if I was ok. Then I think I fell asleep again. I woke up in the recovery room--- and my first thought was boy do I have to pee! There was a nurse at the food of my bed but I felt like I couldn't speak up, so I feebly raised my hand. She walked up to me and I told her I had to go-- she said that was just the catheter and I could just relax. My second thought was- I'm alive! And I love my family! (hilarious, no?). The recovery area was strange-- there were other patients and nurses and it was so frantic and hectic but I felt like a zombie and kept nodding off. My pain was well controlled-- honestly the catheter feeling was my biggest problem. They let my husband visit me in recovery because they had a hard time locating a bed for me-- I was there about 2 hours before moving to a special unit for people spending only one night in the hospital.

The unit reminded me of a cardiac care area--- rooms with a nurses station in the middle-- no doors just curtains. But each room was private (not shared).

From 6pm to ~10:30 pm I battled waves of nausea with the goal of not vomiting. Once I get started I am usually sick for days! The nurse was very good and rather then giving me the standard dinner she ordered a liquid diet for me that night. They sent Ensure, pudding, ice cream and juices. She also brought saltines. I tried everything but the Ensure-- just looking at the ingredients list made me want to vomit! In the end I could only stand the crackers and ginger ale and finally ice water. I'd get a wave of nausea-- and try to breathe through it, recover and then I would burp!! I think it was the gas from the operation discharging.

When the residents came by to check on me at 10:30-- one noticed the wreckage of crackers on my table and looked at me-- it looked funny because I could only eat the crackers after breaking them into tiny pieces- what a mess. I said something about my new amazing cracker diet and he laughed.

After the residents left the nurse arrived announcing it was time to take out the catheter and go for a walk. Oh joy. I'd been pretty brave up to now but I did not like the idea of that thing coming out---but I psyched myself up and followed her instructions (holding my breath and counting) and soon enough the thing was out. It did hurt but I survived.

Walking came next. The nurse helped me swing my feet over the side of the bed and sit up for a bit. Then she helped me stand and walk slowly to the bathroom. The next test was trying to go. After the catheter this was challenging--but I was worried about having them put one back in so I was determined. Not much happened with this first visit-- I felt like I was learning to pee all over again.

Slowly the nurse and I walked back to my room. I decided to sit up and drink as much water as possible so I could go again soon. The nausea was coming in faster waves and I was tired so I agreed to takephenergan. It went to work really fast and I did not have nausea again. The only bad side effect of the phenergan is getting really sleepy-- so I was only able to sit up for a few minutes- then I got back into bed and tried to sleep.

I was wakened by a lab tech who needed to draw blood-- not a fun experience when you are trying to sleep. Then I decided to drink more and walk again to the bathroom. Walking got easier and easier and going to the bathroom got better too.

Soon it was morning (I had very little sleep in the hospital). I was up and about walking without the nurse-- they brought me breakfast and I was able to eat it and keep it down, no nausea. They were ready to let me go home!

One problem! Remember the advice about packing a bag? Well- I packed one with a change of clothes and a few other items and we brought it to the hospital. But my husband took that bag and the bag with mypre -op clothes, shoes etc. home with him the night before. The only thing he left behind was my chap stick! So- if you are wondering what to pack, try to remember that unless you expect to spend several days in the hospital, you don't need much at all!

So all the discharge stuff was done- the doctor came for one last visit, the IVs were removed etc., I just had to wait for DH to bring my clothing! Soon we were out of the hospital and I was home.

I was discharged with percocet and motrin for pain. I alternated the two drugs as directed and they worked for everything except the gas pain. The day passed quickly but as night came I began to feel worse and worse. My shoulder pain spread down my arm and up my neck. It grew and grew so by 9pm I was in tears. All I could do was take thepercocet and sit in bed with lots of pillows propping me up. I dozed off around midnight when the pain eased a bit- and DH was smart to wake me up in the wee hours to take another pain pill. By morning that awful awful pain had eased and was just an ache. I can only think it was caused by the gas but I've had problems with neck pain and shoulder pain before (from previous whiplash and weight lifting errors), so I don't know if the pain was worse because of those other problems. At my post op visit the doctor said this could have been a muscle spasm from my position on the operating table (tilted). I'm just glad it did not last.

DH was so stressed the next morning that he goofed up and gave me a double dose of pain meds in the morning. So I spent that day zonked out on the couch!

Each day I felt better, my incisions were healing well and my pain was under control. I began to take short walks (20 min) and increase the time and distance gradually. After 7 days on thepercocet I was able to stop taking the pills altogether. I think I took percocet all day for 3-5 days and then took it only at night before stopping altogether. I took motrin for about 2-3 weeks after that, gradually moving to night time only doses and then none at all.

I've followed the instructions about not lifting things and waiting for sex. I've been able to cook simple meals and straighten up around the house. I still haven't been to the grocery store by myself-- I'm actually looking forward to shopping alone for a change!

It has been 4 weeks and I pretty much feel like myself again. I no longer have a giant thing in my abdomen taking over my body! Clothes actually fit better- I was even able to go shopping for new ones. The doctor gave me a picture of my uterus and it was amazing how big and deformed it looked-- there were so manyfibroids -- probably more than the 3 they saw on the ultrasound. She also photographed my ovaries and they look healthy and fine. I did not have any problems with ovary function after the operation.

Today I saw the Dr. for my post-op check up. I've lost 2 lbs since my pre-op visit. The doctor said my uterus was about 3 times normal size. No wonder its made a difference now that its gone. She removed a few stitches from my incisions that had not dissolved. Everything is healing correctly and I am cleared to go back to my yoga class in about 2 weeks.

It was difficult to make the decision to have a hysterectomy, but now that its over I'm glad I opted for surgery. I did not realize just how much I was suffering until now. The pain I felt from monthly cramps was worse than all the pain I experienced after surgery. I feel like I can move forward now into a pain free life.
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  #442  
Unread 06-08-2007, 06:06 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

Morning Ladies,
I was 5 weeks PO yesterday!
I have more energy and I am walking and doing more. I am cautious about my lifting though. I am still not sleeping as much as I would like during the night. I cannot nap during the day. Just rest when I fell the need. I guess it is the hormone changes. Anyone else?? I am on Vivelle .75 HRT and about once a day I get a mild hot flash, not really uncomfortable, just noticeable. Should I have it raised or will my body adjust? I am making a list of questions for my Dr when I see him on the 19th to get released back to work.
I have hired our youth group from my church to some oiver and work in my yard this weekend, not being able to pull weeds is making me crazy., ( I love yard work..mowing the grass gives me my time and immediate gratification.)
Externally I have healed beautifully, internally I can still feel the stitches, the bloated feeling is not as bad , I guess internal swelling is going down.
Anyway back to the HRT,, I have read so much negative I can only hope this is temporary.
Thanks... have a blessed weekend
  #443  
Unread 06-08-2007, 07:42 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

Gosprey, I am on Climara and it is working great. They put the patch on me a couple of hours after my surgery. The only thing I've notice is I get mad really quick. Not often, but when I do its as fast as a rocket. We had our surgery on the same days and I am feeling great. I don't want to make any changes on my HRT until I am sure every thing is back to normal. Good Luck.
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  #444  
Unread 06-08-2007, 09:01 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

I did "it" this morning and it was great! No pain from the fibrod and actually had tears in my eyes from joy....its like Ive been reborn.
  #445  
Unread 06-08-2007, 09:03 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

Nope , no IT for me, I was tooo sore from work last night. GRRRR.
  #446  
Unread 06-08-2007, 09:36 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

pcbabe,

So glad to hear that. I can hardly wait!! Was dryness an issue?
  #447  
Unread 06-08-2007, 09:49 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

CrazyDiamond,

no, dryness was not an issue. I thought I would be, but it was smooth sailing. I just started out real slow just to make sure it would hurt and all was good... I did have some slight bleeding afterward but I think that was leftover from the surgery since we were not allowed to douche for six weeks. Havent you been cleared for sex yet???
  #448  
Unread 06-08-2007, 10:29 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

PC....I'm so "jealous"!! Still have 1 week and 3 days before getting cleared for sex....been wondering if things will be the same or better?? I've had friends tell me that their sex lives really took off...I'm hoping that's the forecast for me/us! I had a HUGE tumor growing outside my uterus as well as 3 inside so I am looking forward to different positions - prior to surgery sex very limited due to constant flow. You've given me hope PC....thanks for sharing!!
  #449  
Unread 06-08-2007, 10:39 AM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

Thanks for sharing your experience - I see we share our surgery day of May 4th - are we supposed to observe this date now as an "anniversary" (of sorts)!? It is amazing how much better a person can feel once the fibroids (I referred to mine as "uninvited parasites") are gone - no more feeling like I'm carrying around a bushel of apples. My surgeon said my uterus was the size of being 7 months pregnant and the tumor on the outside of uterus was about 5" x 5" - slowly my swelly belly is getting better - waiting to see how actual clothes will fit once I can wear them - I had a vertical incision so no zippers for me for a while!

Continued success to you as you heal and regain your life!



  Quote:
Originally Posted by arabrabneslin
I've written this summary of my experience because I could not find a similar summary before my surgery and would have loved to be able to read about another person's experience before having the surgery. I hope this account helps others.

My experience with a TLH (total laparoscopic hysterectomy), retaining ovaries.

I am 39 years old and began having heavy irregular periods, breakthrough bleeding, and terrible cramping for over a year. I tried using the pill to help the symptoms but it did not work. I was diagnosed withfibroids (several both inside and outside the uterus) via ultrasound-- my uterus was about the size of a 12 week pregnancy. I decided on hysterectomy because I was finished with childbearing, did not want to have repeat procedures and I found a doctor who specialized in minimally invasive surgery that would allow me to recover easier and faster than a standard abdominal procedure.


Pre Op Visit

Only ate a liquid diet all day-- I did allow myself milk in my coffee and a soy milk protein drink in the morning. These are not usually part of a true liquid diet,but I had been given no specific instructions about a liquid diet by the doctor. Thepre op was in the late afternoon and when I arrived the office was pretty chaotic. The clinic nurse put the thermometer in my mouth without the sanitary cover!

Another nurse finished recording my vital signs. I lost 5 pounds since February (yea)! I have been trying to lose weight since Dec 2006 when myfibroids were diagnosed. I brought DH back in time to see the doctor. Then we got a big shock. In December along with my diagnosis offibroids, I had a bad pap smear (AGUS NOS). This required an ECC and an endometrial biopsy. They were done by my regular GYN and came back negative. But the surgeon I was seeing was still worried something was missed. She had consulted with oncologists about my case and they said she should do another pap smear and biopsy before surgery. All I could think was what am I going to do if I can't have surgery tomorrow. It takes months to get prepared for this type of thing. And of course here I was worrying about cancer again. The doctor scheduled me for the second surgery of the day and sent me home to do the bowel prep etc.

Ok- it is true what people say the bowel prep is one of the worst parts of this whole experience. I did not find that the phospho soda tasted bad (I put mine in ginger ale and slugged it like a college student binge drinking jello shots)...it was just very salty and had a weird aftertaste. Drink quickly and move on! The worst part of bowel prep was the sore rear end afterwards--- I did not buy gentleflushable wipes. That was a mistake.

Its easy to stick to the rule about not eating after a certain time--- you won't want to eat after the bowel prep. If you are allowed fluids try to drink up until the cutoff time because you don't want to be dehydrated the next day. Always follow your doctor's instructions.

That night I had to shower with antibacterial soap they gave me at the hospital and do the same in the morning.

In the morning I got up and said goodbye to my son, my parents drove him to school. We did not have to go to the hospital until 10am. Before showering I did the enema (geez enough already with the bowels!!) that gave me a stomach cramp or two but was over quickly.

At the hospital we checked in and were directed to the pre-op waiting area. This room was filled with lots of lost looking men walking around with clear bags filled with their significant other's belongings. They looked so sad and all I could think was that was going to be my DH soon!
I was still uncertain about my new pap smear and biopsy-- but guessed that since no one called in the early hours to cancel that things wereok.

The pre-op nurse called me in to take my vitals-- sat me in a giant chair, I felt like Lily Tomlin in the "incredible shrinking woman". then sent me to give a urine sample. That was like getting blood from a stone.

Back to the waiting room for less than a minute before they called us both back. The nurse put us in another room with a different chair, told me to take it all off and put on the hospital gown, hose, slipper socks and funny hat, told DH that his job was opening the door when I was finished dressing. We had a good laugh about the white pressure hose- DH saying they were sexy etc. I got dressed and we opened the door.

The parade of people began soon after. First a nurse put an needle for an IV in both of my hands, connecting only one to to an actual IV drip. They were giving me fluid andpepcid. Apparently they tilt you so much for the surgery that the pepcid helps prevent acid reflux afterwards. It worked- I did not have a problem with reflux after surgery.

Then the anesthesiologist stopped by to ask about my medical history and my neck flexibility (for airway insertion), the nurse anesthetist stopped by as well and explained the full procedure and all risks. I was happy to learn that the bladder catheter and respirator were to be put in after I was under anesthesia.

The surgeon arrived and leaned around the anesthesiology people to give me the thumbs up!! No cancer detected, whew! It was a relief to see her and to know everything wasok . She had two residents who also introduced themselves. Everyone was cheerful patient and friendly--it really helped put me at ease.

Be prepared to repeat many times the type of operation you are having-- this is because everyone involved must ensure that they are aware and that you are aware of all the plans- to prevent medical errors and misunderstandings.

After all the prep was done they let me say good bye to my husband and then wheeled me in the chair to the operating room. I remember seeing the huge lights and all the equipment and that's about it! Someone put the happy juice into my IV and I had a good sleep.

Four hours later...either the anesthesia nurse or the surgical resident was saying my name and asking if I was ok. Then I think I fell asleep again. I woke up in the recovery room--- and my first thought was boy do I have to pee! There was a nurse at the food of my bed but I felt like I couldn't speak up, so I feebly raised my hand. She walked up to me and I told her I had to go-- she said that was just the catheter and I could just relax. My second thought was- I'm alive! And I love my family! (hilarious, no?). The recovery area was strange-- there were other patients and nurses and it was so frantic and hectic but I felt like a zombie and kept nodding off. My pain was well controlled-- honestly the catheter feeling was my biggest problem. They let my husband visit me in recovery because they had a hard time locating a bed for me-- I was there about 2 hours before moving to a special unit for people spending only one night in the hospital.

The unit reminded me of a cardiac care area--- rooms with a nurses station in the middle-- no doors just curtains. But each room was private (not shared).

From 6pm to ~10:30 pm I battled waves of nausea with the goal of not vomiting. Once I get started I am usually sick for days! The nurse was very good and rather then giving me the standard dinner she ordered a liquid diet for me that night. They sent Ensure, pudding, ice cream and juices. She also brought saltines. I tried everything but the Ensure-- just looking at the ingredients list made me want to vomit! In the end I could only stand the crackers and ginger ale and finally ice water. I'd get a wave of nausea-- and try to breathe through it, recover and then I would burp!! I think it was the gas from the operation discharging.

When the residents came by to check on me at 10:30-- one noticed the wreckage of crackers on my table and looked at me-- it looked funny because I could only eat the crackers after breaking them into tiny pieces- what a mess. I said something about my new amazing cracker diet and he laughed.

After the residents left the nurse arrived announcing it was time to take out the catheter and go for a walk. Oh joy. I'd been pretty brave up to now but I did not like the idea of that thing coming out---but I psyched myself up and followed her instructions (holding my breath and counting) and soon enough the thing was out. It did hurt but I survived.

Walking came next. The nurse helped me swing my feet over the side of the bed and sit up for a bit. Then she helped me stand and walk slowly to the bathroom. The next test was trying to go. After the catheter this was challenging--but I was worried about having them put one back in so I was determined. Not much happened with this first visit-- I felt like I was learning to pee all over again.

Slowly the nurse and I walked back to my room. I decided to sit up and drink as much water as possible so I could go again soon. The nausea was coming in faster waves and I was tired so I agreed to takephenergan. It went to work really fast and I did not have nausea again. The only bad side effect of the phenergan is getting really sleepy-- so I was only able to sit up for a few minutes- then I got back into bed and tried to sleep.

I was wakened by a lab tech who needed to draw blood-- not a fun experience when you are trying to sleep. Then I decided to drink more and walk again to the bathroom. Walking got easier and easier and going to the bathroom got better too.

Soon it was morning (I had very little sleep in the hospital). I was up and about walking without the nurse-- they brought me breakfast and I was able to eat it and keep it down, no nausea. They were ready to let me go home!

One problem! Remember the advice about packing a bag? Well- I packed one with a change of clothes and a few other items and we brought it to the hospital. But my husband took that bag and the bag with mypre -op clothes, shoes etc. home with him the night before. The only thing he left behind was my chap stick! So- if you are wondering what to pack, try to remember that unless you expect to spend several days in the hospital, you don't need much at all!

So all the discharge stuff was done- the doctor came for one last visit, the IVs were removed etc., I just had to wait for DH to bring my clothing! Soon we were out of the hospital and I was home.

I was discharged with percocet and motrin for pain. I alternated the two drugs as directed and they worked for everything except the gas pain. The day passed quickly but as night came I began to feel worse and worse. My shoulder pain spread down my arm and up my neck. It grew and grew so by 9pm I was in tears. All I could do was take thepercocet and sit in bed with lots of pillows propping me up. I dozed off around midnight when the pain eased a bit- and DH was smart to wake me up in the wee hours to take another pain pill. By morning that awful awful pain had eased and was just an ache. I can only think it was caused by the gas but I've had problems with neck pain and shoulder pain before (from previous whiplash and weight lifting errors), so I don't know if the pain was worse because of those other problems. At my post op visit the doctor said this could have been a muscle spasm from my position on the operating table (tilted). I'm just glad it did not last.

DH was so stressed the next morning that he goofed up and gave me a double dose of pain meds in the morning. So I spent that day zonked out on the couch!

Each day I felt better, my incisions were healing well and my pain was under control. I began to take short walks (20 min) and increase the time and distance gradually. After 7 days on thepercocet I was able to stop taking the pills altogether. I think I took percocet all day for 3-5 days and then took it only at night before stopping altogether. I took motrin for about 2-3 weeks after that, gradually moving to night time only doses and then none at all.

I've followed the instructions about not lifting things and waiting for sex. I've been able to cook simple meals and straighten up around the house. I still haven't been to the grocery store by myself-- I'm actually looking forward to shopping alone for a change!

It has been 4 weeks and I pretty much feel like myself again. I no longer have a giant thing in my abdomen taking over my body! Clothes actually fit better- I was even able to go shopping for new ones. The doctor gave me a picture of my uterus and it was amazing how big and deformed it looked-- there were so manyfibroids -- probably more than the 3 they saw on the ultrasound. She also photographed my ovaries and they look healthy and fine. I did not have any problems with ovary function after the operation.

Today I saw the Dr. for my post-op check up. I've lost 2 lbs since my pre-op visit. The doctor said my uterus was about 3 times normal size. No wonder its made a difference now that its gone. She removed a few stitches from my incisions that had not dissolved. Everything is healing correctly and I am cleared to go back to my yoga class in about 2 weeks.

It was difficult to make the decision to have a hysterectomy, but now that its over I'm glad I opted for surgery. I did not realize just how much I was suffering until now. The pain I felt from monthly cramps was worse than all the pain I experienced after surgery. I feel like I can move forward now into a pain free life.
  #450  
Unread 06-08-2007, 12:23 PM
Hysterectomy dates Apr 30-May 07,2007

Hi Girls,
It sounds like everyone is doing great Five weeks post op for me today and I am feeling great! I can hardly believe I am here. In the beginning I thought this time would never come I will see the DR on the 18th so I will let you all know how that goes. Have a wonderful day
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