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  #21  
Unread 11-08-2007, 01:23 PM
Ambien?

Simply Sleep is an OTC sleeping aid that can be found at most pharmacies. I think it may be the same sleep component that is found in Tylenol PM.
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  #22  
Unread 11-08-2007, 02:04 PM
Ambien?

Simply Sleep is made by Tylenol. It has the same sleepy medicine that Tylenol PM has but not the pain reliever. It is sold in the same section as the Tylenol PM.
  #23  
Unread 11-08-2007, 02:10 PM
Ambien?

  Quote:
Originally Posted by pamrose228
Kathy,

Someone else on this thread mentioned that her mother cut them in half and it worked. I split one last nite. The pill split pretty evenly. I looked at both halves and they looked exactly alike. I took one. I had a better sleep with the CR and do not feel drugged today. I am a big girl 5'10" and 170 so my tolerance to meds is pretty high, I usually need the higher dosage of these types of meds.

Thanks for caring!
Pam,

That is great to know. I think I'll cut mine in half because I'm really drug senitive. I'm glad you tried and it worked. Thanks so much for sharing the info. I hope you continue to sleep well.

Blessings,
Kathy
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  #24  
Unread 11-08-2007, 02:33 PM
Ambien?

Simply sleep and tylenol pm both use the same sleep ingredient which is benadryl. If you read the back label you will see it is the same thing. I just buy benadryl because you get more for your money and it is the same exact drug. Check it out next time you are at the drug store. Just thought I would try to save you ladies some money.
Janelle
  #25  
Unread 11-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Ambien?

I took Ambien a few years ago and then stopped after one morning while the kids were getting ready for school we had a fight, I said to them why is the peanut butter, jelly and bread still all over the table. I went on and on that they need to clean up after themselfs and then my 17 year old looked at at me and said " Mom what are you crazy you came down last night about 12a.m. and made yourself a sandwich and we talked for a bit and then you went back to bed" well i dont remember that at all! The next day i heard other people talking about similar situations on the radio and phoned in my story had a laugh and never took them again. I wish you luck i really hope it works for you.
Laura
  #26  
Unread 11-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Ambien?

As mentioned there is a warning on the label to go directly to bed after taking, you risk "amnesia" if you try to stay awake after taking it. The only time I experienced this was when I tried to stay up.

For those of you who are taking Benadryl and other meds that aren't prescribed as sleep aids, please be careful. There are other ingredients in these drugs that can be harmful to your liver and your stomach if you use them on a regular basis. Just because it's over the counter, doesn't mean that it is safe to be used "off label" or for extended periods of time.

If you are having ongoing sleep problems, seek medical advise before self-treating. Just my opinion and thoughts.

Hugs and Sweet Dreams to You All!

Christine
  #27  
Unread 11-10-2007, 05:47 AM
Ambien?

I have had problems with insomnia since as far back as I have memories. I am the lightest sleeper there is and if I got 2 hours of sleep a nite, that was a lot.

It took about 6 years, as many doctors and 3 friends recommending Ambien to me before I decided to give it a try. I've been on it now for a couple years. While I do like the fact I can sleep...I also can fight it which makes for some interesting emails and blogs that I do...as it is an amnesiac/hypnotic drug and basically that's what it does. That's why they tell you to take it and get straight to bed...so you don't try to fight it and do things you will not remember or vaguely remember the next day. People have even used it as an excuse for driving/accidents and even killing. My own experiences and those, if you were interested can be found here <admin note: link removed, links to personal blogs not allowed in posts> . Maybe that will help some people out a bit.

I've tried the Ambien CR, both strengths, and you can NOT split them as they are timed release and have to stay in their own little enclosed wear-off shell...it would be like opening up one of those timed-release capsules - you just don't do it. Basically if you are taking 5 mg of regular Ambien, the 6.25 pill will basically put approximately 5 mg of constant pill in your bloodstream (5 at the onset and then the other mg's kick in throughout when typically the regular 5 dosage would be wearing off)...and the 12.5 CR will do the same if you are accustomed to taking the 10 mg. If you awaken early or throughought the nite...CR is probably better for you - but if you don't...it might make it harder to get out of your grogginess, so it's best to try the smaller mg dosage first before you zip right to the 12.5 mg.

Here's a blurb from the Ambien site which addresses the CR issue:

How can I use AMBIEN CR properly?
Answer:
When using AMBIEN CR, it is important to always follow your doctor's instructions.
AMBIEN CR tablets should not be divided, crushed, or chewed, and must be swallowed whole.
It is suggested that for faster sleep onset AMBIEN CR not be taken with or immediately after a meal.
You should not drive or operate heavy machinery after taking any sleep medication until you know how it will affect your physical or mental performance upon awakening.
You should not drink alcohol while taking AMBIEN CR.

Personally, I like the regular Ambien better. Rozerem, Lunesta and one other one I forgot the name of, really gave me some bizarre side effects: from nasty taste in my mouth to being cognizant of my breathing but without the power to move, sweating, breathing fast, heart palpitations, etc. Of course, I also know some people who love Lunesta...so it's all about how it affects you personally.

Just don't crush or open anything that is timed release medication...that's not a very good idea.
  #28  
Unread 11-10-2007, 04:42 PM
Ambien?

  Quote:
Originally Posted by NPWriter
I have had problems with insomnia since as far back as I have memories. I am the lightest sleeper there is and if I got 2 hours of sleep a nite, that was a lot.

It took about 6 years, as many doctors and 3 friends recommending Ambien to me before I decided to give it a try. I've been on it now for a couple years. While I do like the fact I can sleep...I also can fight it which makes for some interesting emails and blogs that I do...as it is an amnesiac/hypnotic drug and basically that's what it does. That's why they tell you to take it and get straight to bed...so you don't try to fight it and do things you will not remember or vaguely remember the next day. People have even used it as an excuse for driving/accidents and even killing. My own experiences and those, if you were interested can be found here <admin note: link removed, links to personal blogs not allowed in posts> . Maybe that will help some people out a bit.

I've tried the Ambien CR, both strengths, and you can NOT split them as they are timed release and have to stay in their own little enclosed wear-off shell...it would be like opening up one of those timed-release capsules - you just don't do it. Basically if you are taking 5 mg of regular Ambien, the 6.25 pill will basically put approximately 5 mg of constant pill in your bloodstream (5 at the onset and then the other mg's kick in throughout when typically the regular 5 dosage would be wearing off)...and the 12.5 CR will do the same if you are accustomed to taking the 10 mg. If you awaken early or throughought the nite...CR is probably better for you - but if you don't...it might make it harder to get out of your grogginess, so it's best to try the smaller mg dosage first before you zip right to the 12.5 mg.

Here's a blurb from the Ambien site which addresses the CR issue:

How can I use AMBIEN CR properly?
Answer:
When using AMBIEN CR, it is important to always follow your doctor's instructions.
AMBIEN CR tablets should not be divided, crushed, or chewed, and must be swallowed whole.
It is suggested that for faster sleep onset AMBIEN CR not be taken with or immediately after a meal.
You should not drive or operate heavy machinery after taking any sleep medication until you know how it will affect your physical or mental performance upon awakening.
You should not drink alcohol while taking AMBIEN CR.

Personally, I like the regular Ambien better. Rozerem, Lunesta and one other one I forgot the name of, really gave me some bizarre side effects: from nasty taste in my mouth to being cognizant of my breathing but without the power to move, sweating, breathing fast, heart palpitations, etc. Of course, I also know some people who love Lunesta...so it's all about how it affects you personally.

Just don't crush or open anything that is timed release medication...that's not a very good idea.
Thanks NPwriter for the warning. I did actually spit the cr tablet and took it and felt very strange. They only gave me 4 samples and I think I will stick with the regular ambien. Last night I took the regular ambien and just slept till 2am but took some melatonin and got another 3 hrs sleep. I felt lucky to get some extra sleep with melatonin. melatonin use to work for me all the time but not as well now. Thanks again. It's very frustrating at times but have to keep working at it. Thanks for your thoughts. Kathy
  #29  
Unread 11-10-2007, 05:01 PM
Ambien?

  Quote:
Originally Posted by Humming Bird
Thanks NPwriter for the warning. I did actually spit the cr tablet and took it and felt very strange. They only gave me 4 samples and I think I will stick with the regular ambien. Last night I took the regular ambien and just slept till 2am but took some melatonin and got another 3 hrs sleep. I felt lucky to get some extra sleep with melatonin. melatonin use to work for me all the time but not as well now. Thanks again. It's very frustrating at times but have to keep working at it. Thanks for your thoughts. Kathy
Ladies,

I went back to regular Ambien also, Kathy, CR makes you feel strange the next day...kind of out of it, that's how I feel.
Regular Ambien wakes me hours later, but for some reason I get back to sleep. As for the warning the drug company gives about splitting or crushing, a friend who is a mucky muck at a pharmaceutical company told me these warnings are all about money. If you know you can split the pill your doctor can prescribe half the larger dose which you can split
and have for the entire month therefore selling less pills.
  #30  
Unread 11-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Ambien?

  Quote:
Originally Posted by pamrose228
Ladies,

I went back to regular Ambien also, Kathy, CR makes you feel strange the next day...kind of out of it, that's how I feel.
Regular Ambien wakes me hours later, but for some reason I get back to sleep. As for the warning the drug company gives about splitting or crushing, a friend who is a mucky muck at a pharmaceutical company told me these warnings are all about money. If you know you can split the pill your doctor can prescribe half the larger dose which you can split
and have for the entire month therefore selling less pills.
I beg to differ - many pills are not "timed release" pills which have no score marks on them which are easily split in half by hand or with a knife/pill cutter. I did this with my Percocet (after talking to the pharmacist and we both agreed it didn't have that type of coating on it that "self-destructs" slowly), I do it with my regular Ambien all the time even tho it doesn't have a score mark...but I would seriously not do it with a timed release medicine because they are usually put in a coating or capsule which dissolves at a slower rate, thereby releasing their contents after their coating wears off.

Try this one: Take a regular pill (not timed release) and put it in an ordinary glass of warm water and see what happens - then stick one of those timed-release ones in - it will take a lot longer for the coating to be breached...same thing even with all our stomach acid going at it. There's a reason they formulate them and market them as "timed release" - I'd call up a few other pharmacists and ask them their opinions about this whole thing. specifically, timed release products.
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