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Unread 09-03-2008, 08:40 AM
questions about full blown menopause

I am scheduled for my big day at the castle on Sept. 12, very nervous about the effects of full blown menopause, I am having a TAH/BSO and my dr. says I am not allowed to have any hormone therapy, b/c it would cause the endometreosis to return and fill the pelvic area, he did say after my 6 mos. of post-op we could talk about it then. So.... How fast and hard does it hit?
Dr. makes me feel like I will be ready for the battlefield immediately!!
My family is also concerned about my temper. I was on Lupron shots for 1 yr. (5 yrs. ago) and although it did help temporairly my endo, it made me crazy and mad at the whole world all the time, my DH said if I took it again he was leaving till I was done, (only joking of course) when I told the dr. this at the time of hyst. discussion, he laughed and said it wasn't a side effect of Lupron, it was my "menopause" reaction to loss of hormones, and that is probably how I will be again after the surgery!! NOT GOOD!
so how long does it last and what can I do to help????? I want to spare my family and me of.... the DREADED UGLY MONSTER (makes me feel like Jeckyl and Hyde), just in time for Halloween though, I guess. Have to find humor some where, I need the laugh.
I also would like to thank each and everyone of you for all the advise, sympathy, and encouragement I have been reading for the past mos. It has really helped me deal with all my questions, and emotions about the whole process, I appreciate all the time and work that goes into this website. I will however be glad to get off this emotional rollercoaster when the ride is finished!!
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Unread 09-03-2008, 09:12 AM
questions about full blown menopause

I could have posted that myself! I am going to the castle on Sept 24. I have endo as well. My doc said that we are going to do some sort of supression therapy for 3 months and then a low dose of hormones after that. I told him I did NOT want the lupron again. Like you, it made me a crazy person. My doc said it WAS my body reacting to Lupron. and from what I have read, Lupron is EVIL, LOL. So blame it on the lupron! We are going to be FINE and get through this. there is an endo support board on here as well. I have found alot of information on there as well.
Unread 09-03-2008, 10:21 AM
questions about full blown menopause

Lifesong & Lookingfora Sis, I am not in either of your shoes, but from reading your posts and those from other women, I have a question maybe you should ask your doctor.

From what I have read, surgical menopause is rough. I am in peri-menopause and I am finding its effects to be rough enough and I maybe have some hormones being produced (not sure if my ovaries are working). I was lucky enough that during my recover I did not have the full effects of insomnia, hot flashes, night sweats, & grumpyness I am having now.

Since you both know you react badly to Lupron and I assume you are both well before menopausal age this is my question...

Why don't the doctors prescribe HRT through the recovery process just so you only have to face one hurdle at a time?

Facing the twin demons of trying to recover and heal properly with the severe hormonal/emotional upheavals seems cruel and unnecessary. How badly could a couple months of hormones effect you? Does endo grow and spread that fast? If you have no hormones after a couple months, shouldn't it shrink and/or die?

Maybe I am just being wishful, but I wish all aspects of a person's life were taken into consideration and making things happen as smooth and "painless" as possible were priorities.

My best wishes to you both - Joanne
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Unread 09-03-2008, 10:27 AM
questions about full blown menopause

I am worried about the same thing. I think the fact that I can't six months from now I can't say, "Woops - made a mistake, lets undue that surgery!"

Is Lupron used to treat endo., or is it also given to help with menopause?

I have a history of ovarian cancer, so I am not sure that I can go on hormones. I am trying to maintain a positive attitude, but I am having a tough time of it!

Best wishes to both of you!
Unread 09-03-2008, 11:18 AM
questions about full blown menopause

I am 6 month post op and still dealing with the things you ladies are talking about. I had TAH, caused by endo., which according to my Dr. is the hardest hitting type of hyster, because it all hits at once.
My hospital stay was 7 days and every day my Dr. kept asking about hot flashes & joked about how good of a patient I was and that my disposition was sooooo good. Not really knowing what he was getting at, because I didn't know everything I NOW know... but my menopause didn't really hit until about 2 weeks post op & boy did it hit hard!!! Sad to say, 6 months later I still don't have it totally under control. The mood swings, uncontrollable crying, night sweats, sleepless nights & hot flashes are in full swing. I have started using the Climara patch, but because I was really concerned about the side affects, I started with a really low dose, and am working my way backwards to find a dose that will work for me... So Im right there with you ladies, trying to find the miricle cure for instant menopause. Still taking suggestions???
Unread 09-03-2008, 11:50 AM
questions about full blown menopause


11 weeks today I was thrown into surgical menopause. I am not on HRT, and about 5 days into recovery the first "warm moments" hit. I now have "warmer moments", (we have central air in the house, and I just made my husband go buy a window unit). But, I am 49, was already experiencing peri-menopausal symptoms, and have been on an anti depressant for years, along with an anti anxiety medication. So far I am holding my own, and hopefully it wont get any worse. (We will probably be the only house in the neighborhood with the A/C running in January).
Unread 09-03-2008, 11:53 AM
questions about full blown menopause

After the surgery we "should" take some sort of supression to HOPEFULLY dry up any endometriosis that was left. if we start right away on HRT it could case the left over endo to become stimulated and flare up again.

i am going to call my doc this afternoon. I am curious now to know what drugs he is going to use after the surgery.

Lupron is used to supress ovarian stimulation. Basically it puts your body into menopause, stops the estrogen production, in hopes that the endo will go away. But, lupron itself is a VERY nasty drug. If I had known NOW what I didnt know then, I never would have agreed to the therapy.

I will tell you that I have been reading about a drug called tibolone. Unfortunately the FDA did not approve it for use in the U.S. But, it seems that women all over the world had great success with this specific drug.
Unread 09-03-2008, 01:02 PM
questions about full blown menopause

I am 5 weeks post op from a TAH/BSO. I had a real depression spell about a week into my recovery. I called the dr. and she put me on 1 mg of Estradiol (I think that's how it's spelled). I have not experienced mood swings, have had a little trouble sleeping and some warm moments...but nothing unbearable.
Unread 09-03-2008, 02:34 PM
questions about full blown menopause

everyone is different. I had my TAH/BSO on July 17th this year. been in full on menopause for a little over a month and feel like I am 16 again.
hot flashes are tolerable, I have bipolar so was really worried about mood swings, haven't had one yet.
I am on hrt but a very low dose.
let me tell ya, for me sex is awesome! better than before no more pain and cramps. yippee.
hang in there sisters,it will be great.
peace chris
Unread 09-03-2008, 02:39 PM
questions about full blown menopause

After my hyst last fall my GYN put me on a minimal dose of estrogen (vivelle dot) and aygestin (progesterone) to balance out the effects of the estrogen. After about six weeks I saw her and told her I was having abdominal pains. She decided to decrease my estrogen to the lowest dose possible while keeping me on the aygestin. I have to take the aygestin for at least a year (she said) to help keep the endo at bay. Well a few months later (this past June) I tried out some different levels of the patch because I was miserable on the lowest dose (crabby, irritable, had weird cravings, etc.) and so she let me up it to .05. Mind you, that's still a relatively small dose patch but I am still having abdominal pains.

Flash ahead to now...I am scheduled to see an endo specialist in a couple of weeks because I've been cleared of every other abdominal issue (gallbladder, liver, pancreas, etc.) and even saw a urologist to determine whether I had interstitial cystitis or not. I do not!

Anyway...sorry to go on and on, but I KNOW that I would die if I had to completely go off the HRT but I have a sick feeling in my stomach that it will be asked of me. I was psycho when I took bc pills back in the day so I can't imagine what going completely off estrogen will do to me!! I do not want to experience full-blow mentalpause at 40! I have enough mental health issues as it is just dealing with the chronic pain I suffer with from fibromyalgia.

I agree with whomever said it would be BEYOND cruel and unjust punishment to push a woman into full-blow menopause when they are trying to recover from a hysterectomy. I'm glad my GYN let me have what I had for the first couple of months or I'd for sure have been a wreck.

My hat is off to those ladies who are handling this with grace and dignity and have not wanted to maim, kill or hurt anyone.


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