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Come on it....it's a Pit-T-Party!!! Come on it....it's a Pit-T-Party!!!

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  #1  
Unread 09-09-2001, 01:02 AM
Come on it....it's a Pit-T-Party!!!

Hello,

My name is Tina and I became a Princess on 9-2-99...it's been two years for me. I had a full hysterectomy because I had endometriosis and cancerious cells on my cervix. Sounds like fun, huh?!?!? Well, I am now 28 years old and wondering if I have to go through depression for the rest of my life.

I was going through a bad spell about a year and a half ago and got on anti-depressants...went to a shrink for one visit and thought I could spend my money better elsewhere, so I never went back and don't plan on it either. For HRT I take Premarin. My Doctor had put my on 75mg of Effexor. It seemed to really help me out. So much that I thought I didn't need it any longer after several months, so I went back to the Doctor....told him that things were going good and we slowly got me off of them. Well, I had posted earlier this month about depression and etc. on another message board, but not sure which one...LOL!!! Anyway....I'm feeling better as of today........but what happens when I feel down again.

When I get "depressed" I think about awful things. Running my car into a concrete wall on the highway on the way home from work and etc. I would NEVER do anything to hurt myself, but these thoughts pop up and I realize it when I'm thinking that it's not right, but I'm not sure how to STOP thinking these things. It causes me problems at work. Just this past week, I called in two days in a row, because I couldn't talk myself into getting out of bed to do anything. I've been totally NON-productive around the house and I've been letting it all fall on my husband and children. They've been supportive, but can get sick of it too. My husband and I have not have the best history of a strong marriage....the past ten years of our marriage have been rocky from time to time..........but I know he loves me and I believe over this time we've grown up a lot......things were looking pretty good........then I had my surgery and I feel that things just fall apart and I have NO control. I tell my husband at times when I feel like this, that I wish I would of just lived with the endo and cancerious cells (that could of turned into cancer) than to have to live like this. I regret my surgery at times, but deep down I know it was the only thing left for me to do.

I've read these other posts on depression, anti-depressants, HRT and etc. and I know I'm not alone, but just like you have shared and hopefully have helped others, I hope my semi-pitiful story will help one of you out too. :-)

So........just like everyone looking for the fountain of youth......is there an end to depression after hysterectomys?

My name should of been Curious George instead of TinaBug...lol

Tina
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Unread 09-09-2001, 01:32 AM
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Tina,
I am sorry you are feeling so poorly. The first thing that screams to me in your post is the premarin. Many women feel better when taking bio-identical hormones. Premarin is NOT bio-identical to human estrogen, and many women have side effects from taking it. Personally if I were a doctor Premarin would be last not first on my list. I would be very interested to see how you feel if you switched to some bio-identical estrogen, maybe progesterone and or testosterone. I would like to see you find a doctor who is educated in prescribing bio-identical hormones...If you want to find a doctor who prescribes bio-identical hormones I would suggest finding a compounding pharmacist first http://www.iacprx.org/ A compounding pharmacist is skilled at making made to order bio-identical hormone preparations for women and will know the doctors in your area that are experts in prescribing them.
Another good source of information is www.yourmenopausetype.com Read through the teaching modules and take the questionaire to give you some indications for how you are doing hormonally. Please let me know if you need anything else. I really feel strongly that with proper hormone replacement, that you will feel remarkably better.

Becky in OHIO
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Unread 09-09-2001, 03:43 AM
Come on it....it's a Pit-T-Party!!!

Your post just jumped out at me, you poor thing it is a terrible way to live. Your so young--i always feel bad when i hear young women having to go thru this menopause stuff. When your my age you know it is something you have to make it thru, but it is just not your time yet. What your experiencing is hormone imbalance--I'll bet you anything, and all the counseling in the world won't fix it. It is hormonal/chemical inbalance. BUT, the good news is you have got a lot of options still available to you. It may be hard right now, but put on those boxing gloves and start seaching for the correct answers for a more suitable hrt for you. . Like Becky said, you are probably on one of the worst hormones available, (of course, unless you are one of the few that feel good on it) premarin..... Many women do not do well on premarin. Depression is a real symptom of your hormones not suiting you correctly. And it is a depression like no other--it can be real dark. But, i'll bet my boots, if you get on some of the bio-identical hormones, the correct dosages of estrogen, some progesterone (if tolerated) and perhaps some testosterone you will become a new person.... It may take some adjusting, but it can make all the difference in the world. If, your doc. won't work with you or doesn't know enuf about hormones (many-many dont), find a new one. Becky gave you some excellent starting places--so girl, don't settle for living like this. Fight, find a knowledgeable doctor, seach out a reliable compounding pharmacist and teach yourself about hrt. It is scary and hard to reach out when you are where you are right now--but you can do it--WE ARE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU. Come here and ask questions any time. There are so many women that have been where you are, and have fought back--learned and can help you find your way thru this jungle. Best of luck in your journey. (Knowledge is power)!!!!
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Unread 09-09-2001, 06:31 PM
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Tina one more suggestion. If you can afford the compounded that is great. It would be my first choice BUT I also know that as a young couple things can be very tight and many insurance companies will not cover the compounded but there are still other choiced for human biologically identical hormones that your insurance will cover. Those would include, estrace (oral) vivelle, vivelle dot, estraderm, alora, climara (all transdermal) and prometrium (bio-progesterone). Your doctor can right you a script for any of these and any pharmacy can fill these. It is just an option for you if you are not able to get the compounded covered... S
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Unread 09-09-2001, 07:35 PM
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While I do think a better hormonal balance will help, please consider going back on an antidepressant in the meantime. That will put the floor under your feet so you can work out the hormonal balance.

In fact, there are doctors talking about problems with HRT crossing the barrier to the brain and that medicines that help boost certain chemicals in the brain should simply be considered part of the picture.

I know that hormones alone are not enough to balance the chemicals in my brain. I feel great on my little dab of synthroid, wellbutrin, estrace, and progesterone cream, but each one alone doesn't do it. And I know that you have to be on antidepressants for a minimum of 9 months before the chemistry in your brain starts to shift on its own. It's not something that "cures" itself after a short while.

Suicidal ideas, however sure you are that you won't act on them, are a very serious symptom. I know, I've been there. And I thought, the way you do, well, it's not like I'll do it. And I too would add the laugh and put on the cheerful face. It's only after I'm really coping with it that I could see just how bad a sign that was. It's not a normal part of menopause.

So do talk to your doctor about the depression now. Figure out a better hormone balance over time, but you have to deal with the depression now. I do know too much about it, but I can tell you it does get better if you tackle it now.

Aside from pills, the other thing you should do right now, don't put it off--is exercise--I know it's the last thing you think you can do--but it works faster and better than antidepressants or hormones to improve the chemical imbalances that cause depression.

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