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Unread 01-23-2002, 02:52 PM
surgery on obese people

I have tried to stay out of the bruhaha on the subject of stomach
banding,but I needed so say something.I had a Doctor ask me a
couple of questions and said surgery on my obesty.I have looked
at all sides on this and there is some good things and there is
bad things about the surgery,and it is not for me.I went in to get tested for diabetes and the doctor sprung that on me.First off I do not have that kind of money to spend to have that type of
surgery done and lose weight and still become a diabetic.Yes obesty is a national heath crisis and it needs to be dealt with,but
I feel that to lose weight and keep it off we need to love our selfs
as we are at this moment and maybe we can go from that point
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Unread 01-23-2002, 06:44 PM
<------ started a riot

Sorry, I did not mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

From what you say, Kathy, your doctor sounds pretty reputable to me. It's the quacks who don't have much screening procedures or exhibit any selectivity in the patients they do surgery on that are more likely to end up with bad outcomes. I would be a lot more suspicious if he *wasn't* doing all this pre-op work.

If safer surgeries exist, I'm thankful to hear about them. After all, the time may come when I will want/need one!! At least those who don't know about them know what to look up and read about, and it's good that you shared that information.

As for now, I'll pass, though. If I have cancer, that's one too many surgeries for me already!

"Ignorance is NOT bliss and if you deny yourself a healthy weight out of being "right", then you are the loser."

I don't know, however, that I am denying myself a healthy weight. I feel fine at this weight *as long as I exercise* (heh, there's the rub!) and, well, the fact is that my life is better now than it ever was when I was thinner and bemoaning the fact that I was fat! I have the better job (well, the better job *opportunity* -- haven't landed it yet!), I have the boyfriend, I have the hobbies and friends and fun in my life I used to think wouldn't happen unless I looked a certain way, i.e., thin.

I think that some people's healthy weight is quite a bit above what the magazines show and promote as healthy.

I also think that one person can be healthy at a certain number, and another person can weigh the same and be quite unhealthy.

There is a tremendous variability between people. We need to accept it and stop judging it. I'd hate to think that only the people who wear a size six are healthy and the rest of us are not. I keep thinking of all the famous beauties who were the paragons of female "health," who took fabulous care of themselves their whole lives. For example: Jackie O (cancer), Diahann Carroll (cancer), Linda Ellerbee (cancer), Suzanne Somers (cancer), Fran Drescher (cancer), Audrey Hepburn (cancer) ... I'm sure you can think of more.

If being thin and eating only vegetables and small amounts of lean meat and exercising hard every day were the for-sure vaccine against bad health problems, it surprises me that these women all got sick from the same things that are getting the rest of us. The way they take/took care of themselves is/was exemplary, and most of them have never been fat a day in their lives.

Things aren't as simple as just WEIGHT, although it is reassuring to many to think so.

I am going to work on curing my compulsive eating problem, eating more healthfully, and getting stronger at the gym, and whatever weight my body adopts as a result probably IS the healthiest weight for me. And chances are when I'm an old lady (hopefully, instead of next week!) what'll get me will be the same cancer that gets millions of other people who weigh more *and* less than I do.
Unread 01-23-2002, 09:28 PM
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Hi and thanks serene for the nice message. I had an appointment today with a sleep specialist (in the respiratory field) who informed me that my obesity was choking me in my sleep and that I would need to use a CPAP machine at night to help breathing until I lost weight...I went to him because I was snoring and waking up gasping in the night scaring my husband. Just a footnote to prove weight IS a factor in some health problems.

I don't think you started a riot, but instead it has been great fun reading the posts (for me anyway). BTW, I had my hysterectomy in 1995 (Jan) and feel great today in that department. Kept my ovaries so I still cry at Lassie movies once a month...I thought I would lose weight from it, but that never happened, and the tumors weighed less than I thought they would. I wound up the same weight I was pre-surgery.

Best wishes to all and hugs to you! xox :0)
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Unread 01-23-2002, 09:45 PM
surgery on obese people

I think most women gain after a hysterectomy. (My mom sure did).

Glad there are no hard feelings.

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