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  #11  
Unread 03-26-2013, 10:14 PM
Re: I think I found a solution

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Originally Posted by Venus4ever View Post
Wow ladies! I swear I finally found the solution and cause to why this is process is so absolutely terrible and depressing and I knew I owed it to post here and hopefully change someone's life. So here goes my story.

I have been the girl that cried wolf on these forums many times. I would do my hormones and as soon as I felt well I thought, OMG! its over! I have my soul back! Id post here about it because of how happy I was. But no matter what I tried over a year and a half I could not seem to get that feeling to last ever!

My breaking point came when I got my hormones tested months ago and my estradiol was simply a 37. I was so angry because I had been on so many sources but I wasnt absorbing. On top of that, the progesterone made the depression I was experiencing a ton worse. However, my fatigue was gone on it so I suffered through it.

Progressively, I lost my breast size, brain fog became unbearable, loss of self, messed up metabolism, facial hair, freezing hands and feet, etc. I was at a loss. And then my miracle came.

6 months ago I had been very sick with a bad cold and my doctor wanted to place me on prednisone. I always rejected this because I knew it messed with hormones and God only knows I couldnt deal with anymore of that. So i put it off. Finally, a month ago my doctor said I need to get on it now because my ears are so swollen he was surprised I could hear.

From the 2nd day on the prednisone, I swear, my soul came back into my body and I felt so much better than any hormone Id ever been on. Why is that? So I immediately threw myself into researching exactly what prednisone is. It is synthetic cortisol, a hormone produced by the adrenal glands. So I went to my doctor, and he said maybe I have lupus or some autoimmune condition thats causing inflammation and thats why the prednisone helped me. So, I literally got tested for every disease, autoimmune illness, candida, everything you name it I did it (I had so much blood taken from me that day!). It turned out, all my tests were perfect and I had nothing wrong in the disease department. So, confused I could not understand why I felt great on the prednisone, and as it wore off, I fell back into the same black hole.

My doctor then said it could be my thyroid since I am showing tons of hypothyroid symptoms. I was referred to a thyroid specialist who put me on a trial dose of thyroid hormone to see if it would help, even though my TSH numbers were excellent. I can tell you, the emotional / physical side effects of this trial were the worst Id ever been through and I lost my hunger altogether and put on weight. So then the answer finally came.

My issue is adrenal fatigue. Thats right. Its that simple. My adrenals are fatigued and when you have adrenal fatigue, your body's own production of progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen go down, the response to thyroid hormone produced by your body dies immensely which is where the hypothyroid symptoms come from. Why do I and so many of us who go through this develop adrenal fatigue?

Because this hysterectomy surgery is so taxing on the body right? All surgeries create some sort of stress on the adrenals. BUT why do so many of us in particular who have had a hysterectomy have problems that are horrible because of it? The key is in fact ESTROGEN. We are put on estrogen hormone replacement therapy while still recovering from a state of adrenal fatigue. I have immensely researched this and learned that giving a person estrogen in a condition of adrenal fatigue (due to the body's natural healing process from surgery) is akin to throwing fuel on the fire. WHY? Because the adrenals are not able to produce hormones such as progesterone etc to balance it, therefore they respond by producing excessive amounts of cortisol.

In fact, this is what my body had been doing for the longest time. Producing excessive cortisol in response to estrogen was the problem, and taking progesterone never solved the issue for me because my adrenals are still not healed or recovered. So, in essence, taking progesterone hrt was like placing a temporary bandaid on a growing problem. So, why is excessive cortisol then such a problem for us. Excessive cortisol makes the brain much less sensitive to estrogen. Um, BRAIN FOG anyone? The cause is right here. When your body is less sensitive to estrogen, you have all the symptoms of estrogen deficiency, no matter how much estrogen you are taking. This was my problem for the longest time.

Ok, so now we know the problem is adrenal fatigue and cortisol being produced excessively. So, why did taking more cortisol in the form of prednisone make me feel better? Because whenever you put a hormone into your body from an outside source, your own natural production of that hormone STOPS. Therefore, my adrenals stopped going into overdrive, and were actually resting and HEALING. This is why I felt so much better. Also, I want to make known that adrenals weakening happens in stages where cortisol can stage 2-3 is quite high, but as you continue to live in this state, your adrenals eventually stop producing cortisol entirely because of their weakness. Therefore, its best to look into this before you go too far into adrenal insufficiency.

The recovery process for adrenal fatigue is a long one and requires you to be on vitamins/ herbs and cut out sugar for months to a year. But I can truly say, after one month of doing this, I feel so much better and I LOOK so much better than I have. Oh and better yet, my estradiol level JUMPED from 37 from last time to 532 (very high obviously) recently. So, it seems my body has become much more sensitized to estrogen again and is why I am feeling better.

Anyways, I had to share this with you all because I truly do believe I found the cure for many of us who cant get balanced no matter what combination we try. If you are still in the jungle and cant be balanced, I beg of you to please look into adrenal fatigue. It will change your life. I know it has changed mine.

EDIT: I would also like to add that if you're doctor tells you of course you have adrenal fatigue, because your hormones are low and once you replace them your adrenal fatigue will go away. THIS IS THE BIGGEST MYTH EVER! I know because I have been put on everything (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone) and they did absolutely nothing to cure it. You have to replenish the source DIRECTLY and let them heal on their own. Its a completely separate issue than just giving your body hormones. So please be prepared to fight your doctor on this! Also, most doctors only recognize adrenal INSUFFICENCY (adrenal failure) and are not educated on how to treat adrenal fatigue stages leading up to it. They might say it does not exist, but logic dictates that there is NO SUCH THING as an organ being either 100% healthy or 100% failure. There is obviously a degenerative state in between so you may need to call and ask doctors specifically if they are experienced in treating adrenal fatigue as opposed to adrenal failure.
This is an old post but just wanted to see how you are doing?
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Unread 03-27-2013, 07:51 PM
Re: I think I found a solution

Hi! I actually have been meaning to make a post concerning my endless attempts at retaining my soul, brain, and body back. I actually discovered that the solution I posted here only worked for a short period of time for one reason.

I advise everyone here to look into getting their thyroids checked. I constantly had periods where I would change medications and I would get improvement for a short period of time but nothing substantial. Well, I put two and two together when these past couple of months all of my symptoms became much worse. Brain fog, hair loss, feeling freezing cold, weight gain, weight loss, etc. All of these symptoms point to thyroid so I had mine checked and this is what the results showed. Low tsh (TSH 2.00), Low free t4, low free t3. It turns out I am severely hypothyroid by my lab numbers; however, no doctor ever caught it because my tsh was always low. I broke down in front of my teacher on day at school and told her my issues and she was actually the one who told me to get my thyroid checked. It took her 12 years for doctors to diagnose her because her TSH was always "in range" even though her free thyroid hormone levels ( which are the actual active amount of thyroid hormone in your blood ) were extremely low. It turns out, the TSH is the last thing to rise when you are hypothyroid. So, I went to an integrative healthcare doctor who is extremely openminded. I asked to be placed on Natural dessicated thyroid hormone (NP thyroid by Acella which I LOVE!) this week because synthroid made me feel horrendously depressed and terrible weight gain. Its funny you just posted in response to this because I literally just started my new thyroid medication this week. All I can say is that I am FINALLY on track to getting my old self back. My depression and hair loss are already stopping, and I know I will get myself back in time. It takes months for your thyroid hormone levels to adjust back to normal so I am at least seeing a light at the end of the tunnel! Also, another issue that made it hard for them to diagnose me as hypothyroid was because I am thin. So, you dont necessarily have to be overweight to be hypothyroid.

My belief is that all women who have had a hysterectomy and have been in the jungle like me where not one thing works, no single hormone helps that much to give you your brain and soul back, then its absolutely your thyroid (especially if you have brain fog). I think in some people a hysterectomy triggers an autoimmune response by your body to over produce thyroid hormone to compensate for what it sees as the loss of sex organs. That is what happened to me now that I think about my experience immediately after my hysterectomy. My body actually went hyperthyroid temporarily because the thyroid is dying off as it sends out as much hormone as it can to compensate for the loss of your ovaries. Regardless if I was taking hormones or not, the thyroid was still dying, which I believe is because it is more sensitive to the loss of the sex organs themselves rather than just the hormones (dont quote me on that one though!). So, if you still havent found the light at the end of the tunnel, please get your thyroid checked and make sure NOT to go on synthetic t-4 only drugs. You need to be on natural thyroid hormone (which gives t4, t3, t2, t1, and calcitonin). THere is a website called Stop the thyroid madness (if you google that name) that is a godsend and has plenty of information to help you. I dont know if I am allowed to post the link here so just google that if you like. Also, be sure to get your t4 FREE and t3 FREE levels tested in addition to your tsh when you get the labs done. Total t4 and total t3 levels are useless as this is not the free active amount of thyroid hormone left in the blood.

SO, overall, I am on the track to getting myself back and I am getting better, feeling younger and healthier, and remembering more of my old self everyday. Unfortunately, because I went undiagnosed for so long, I have adrenal fatigue issues that make the thyroid hormone sensitive for me. So I am on vitamin C and an anti inflammatory diet with plenty of rest so that my thyroid hormone can work efficiently. I am getting me back again yay! Adrenal fatigue issues caused by low thyroid is also explained by the website Stop The Thyroid Madness.

Good luck to everyone still in the jungle and please get your thyroid checked if you still feel like nothing you have tried is working! It was my missing key, and none of your hormones will work correctly if you dont get your thyroid levels corrected.

Xoxo
  #13  
Unread 03-27-2013, 09:15 PM
Re: I think I found a solution

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Originally Posted by Venus4ever View Post
Hi! I actually have been meaning to make a post concerning my endless attempts at retaining my soul, brain, and body back. I actually discovered that the solution I posted here only worked for a short period of time for one reason.

I advise everyone here to look into getting their thyroids checked. I constantly had periods where I would change medications and I would get improvement for a short period of time but nothing substantial. Well, I put two and two together when these past couple of months all of my symptoms became much worse. Brain fog, hair loss, feeling freezing cold, weight gain, weight loss, etc. All of these symptoms point to thyroid so I had mine checked and this is what the results showed. Low tsh (TSH 2.00), Low free t4, low free t3. It turns out I am severely hypothyroid by my lab numbers; however, no doctor ever caught it because my tsh was always low. I broke down in front of my teacher on day at school and told her my issues and she was actually the one who told me to get my thyroid checked. It took her 12 years for doctors to diagnose her because her TSH was always "in range" even though her free thyroid hormone levels ( which are the actual active amount of thyroid hormone in your blood ) were extremely low. It turns out, the TSH is the last thing to rise when you are hypothyroid. So, I went to an integrative healthcare doctor who is extremely openminded. I asked to be placed on Natural dessicated thyroid hormone (NP thyroid by Acella which I LOVE!) this week because synthroid made me feel horrendously depressed and terrible weight gain. Its funny you just posted in response to this because I literally just started my new thyroid medication this week. All I can say is that I am FINALLY on track to getting my old self back. My depression and hair loss are already stopping, and I know I will get myself back in time. It takes months for your thyroid hormone levels to adjust back to normal so I am at least seeing a light at the end of the tunnel! Also, another issue that made it hard for them to diagnose me as hypothyroid was because I am thin. So, you dont necessarily have to be overweight to be hypothyroid.

My belief is that all women who have had a hysterectomy and have been in the jungle like me where not one thing works, no single hormone helps that much to give you your brain and soul back, then its absolutely your thyroid (especially if you have brain fog). I think in some people a hysterectomy triggers an autoimmune response by your body to over produce thyroid hormone to compensate for what it sees as the loss of sex organs. That is what happened to me now that I think about my experience immediately after my hysterectomy. My body actually went hyperthyroid temporarily because the thyroid is dying off as it sends out as much hormone as it can to compensate for the loss of your ovaries. Regardless if I was taking hormones or not, the thyroid was still dying, which I believe is because it is more sensitive to the loss of the sex organs themselves rather than just the hormones (dont quote me on that one though!). So, if you still havent found the light at the end of the tunnel, please get your thyroid checked and make sure NOT to go on synthetic t-4 only drugs. You need to be on natural thyroid hormone (which gives t4, t3, t2, t1, and calcitonin). THere is a website called Stop the thyroid madness (if you google that name) that is a godsend and has plenty of information to help you. I dont know if I am allowed to post the link here so just google that if you like. Also, be sure to get your t4 FREE and t3 FREE levels tested in addition to your tsh when you get the labs done. Total t4 and total t3 levels are useless as this is not the free active amount of thyroid hormone left in the blood.

SO, overall, I am on the track to getting myself back and I am getting better, feeling younger and healthier, and remembering more of my old self everyday. Unfortunately, because I went undiagnosed for so long, I have adrenal fatigue issues that make the thyroid hormone sensitive for me. So I am on vitamin C and an anti inflammatory diet with plenty of rest so that my thyroid hormone can work efficiently. I am getting me back again yay! Adrenal fatigue issues caused by low thyroid is also explained by the website Stop The Thyroid Madness.

Good luck to everyone still in the jungle and please get your thyroid checked if you still feel like nothing you have tried is working! It was my missing key, and none of your hormones will work correctly if you dont get your thyroid levels corrected.

Xoxo
Yay I am so glad you replied back! I am glad you are getting some relief. I had the rest of my "stuff" removed 5 mths ago and have been on the HRT journey. I am struggling with getting the right level because I am still feeling tired and depressed and agitated. I am pretty sure my agrenals are shot because my cortisol levels were off before the surgery and even now I am dead in the mornings but get energy in the evenings. The only thyroid test I have had done recently was TSH. It was 1.780 BEFORE surgery and 2 mths ago it was 2.000. And I am down to 100 pounds and I hate it!
I am using the Femring and estrogel but still not where I need to be. Thanks again for replying (:
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