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How long does it take to detox? How long does it take to detox?

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  #1  
Unread 08-03-2002, 11:55 AM
How long does it take to detox?

Some of you may remember I have had chronic back and pelvic pain with a not so nice doctor. She refuses to give me any more pain meds (I've taken Ultram for about six or seven months) until I go to pain mangement which I don't want to go although I called to make an appt but no-one has called back. I had an MRI of my spine Tuesday which showed arthritis and bone spurs on two vertabrae. I've started PT two times a week but have had no Ultram since Tuesday. I found some Vioxx in the back of my medicine chest but it is not helping my pain.

I refuse to beg this lady but I hurt and I feel sick and tired and shakey. Any advice how long the withdrawl will last?

I personally feel this is very bad medical mangment but I don't have the energy to complain to anyone.
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Unread 08-03-2002, 02:09 PM
Withdrawal

Robbie: Sorry to hear of your predicament. And it is very bad medical practice. Got out my trusty "Worst Pills Best Pills" and Ultram is on the Do Not Use list. Whatever you do, don't let anyone give you that again! It is marketed to the medical community as a low potential for abuse. However, it does cause dependence. It has caused bad side effects too. I don't find any info as to how long withdrawal will last. Ideally, you should have been helped by your physician with a reduced dose. This again, is the drug companies marketing their goods irresponsibly. The book states it isn't even any more effective than combinations of codeine with acetaminophen or aspirin.

By all means try the pain management clinic. My daughter-in-law suffers from chronic pain and they have helped her. No one seems to solve her pain problem, but she is managing her pain without going to ER all the time (she has two small children). So keep bugging them. She has run into Drs. who don't return calls. It's extremely rude, isn't it. As to arthritis and bone spurs, I have those and find glucosamine and chondroitin excellant. Takes awhile to work, but you know it works when you stop taking it and you start to hurt. Hang in there.
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Unread 08-03-2002, 02:56 PM
How long does it take to detox?

Hi Robbie,

Sorry to hear you're not feeling so good right now. Has your doctor explained to you why she's taken you off the Ultram? Are you currently taking other medication? If you've recently been prescribed medication for another condition, this could be be a possible reason.
If taking Ultram (generic name tramadol hydrochloride) is stopped suddenly, it can cause the symptoms you're describing. If this is what she did, she better have a very good reason for it! Gradually cutting down the dose of Ultram is thought to reduce the withdrawal effects.
I know it's easier said than done, but you should try and gather all your strength & ask her to explain all this, and of course get her to understand how lousy you feel right now. Isn't it a doctor's obligation to help a patient relieve his or her suffering?
In my opinion your doctor is not treating you with the dignity and respect you deserve. I sincerely hope she'll be more helpful in the future. Please take care & try and keep your spirits up!
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Unread 08-03-2002, 05:48 PM
I hope my story helps...You are not alone

I just wanted to say I understand you not wanting to go a pain Doc and I also understand how bad a Dr. can make you feel. Going to a pain clinic to me meant giving up and I refused to believe that I was going to have to live with the pain for the rest of my life. It made me angry that my Gyn refused to do any further surgery for my adhesions. When ever the pain got bad I would either find myself at my Primary Dr. clinic or ER. By then the only thing that would get under pain control was a shot of Demerol. Finally when the Er started threating to no longer treat me unless I went to the pain clinic I gave in. Unfortantly for me with my husband being in the Navy I had to use their Dr.'s. The Navy pain Dr.'s put me on every inflammatory and antidepressant known to man and when I told them only pain meds like Tylox and Vicodin worked they accused me of drug seeking and not really wanting help. So I was back where I started. After 4 months of this my primary once again put in a referral for the pain clinic and showed me a letter where a Nurse Practisioner(sp) that I only saw once took it upon herself to report how many times I had been Prescribed pain meds and because of this a letter was put in my records stating thatI was not be given anything stronger then Tylenol and was to be either sent to a pain clinic or Psch hospital for detox and drug couseling. As you guess I chose the pain clinic and was blessed that the Navy clinic was only seeing active duty at the time and dependants where to go to a civilan doctor that they would pay for. Two weeks ago I sat in the office of a Doctors who I believe to be a angel. He assured me that I was NOT a addict or drug seeker and promised me that he would help me get my life back. I now take Oxycotin 10mg every 8 hours and Oxycodone 5mg for break through pain. I have not been to a ER or Dr's office since. For most people two weeks seems like nothing for me it's a great acomplishment. I am now able to play with my children and enjoy romantic evenings with my DH. I hope you do not mind that I posted all of this on you post but I did this with the hope that my story will give you hope. Please do not give up and no right now it seems hopeless but the right Dr. is out there and relief and you life could be right behind the bend. Please feel free to email directly if you need to talk to someone that has been there.

Your hystsister and friend
Maya
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Unread 08-03-2002, 07:57 PM
Weaning

Usually they wean you off pain meds by gradually lowering the dosage, have you asked about this, seems not good medicine
to go cold turkey, usually they gradually lower the doasge
so you don't suffer.
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Unread 08-03-2002, 08:02 PM
Maya

Do you still have to take this OXY? Can they do anything to help your pain? My brother went to a pain clinic for Nueropathy ( spl)
and they couldn't help his pain, even with those pain block
spinal things they do. I hope they can help you
  #7  
Unread 08-03-2002, 09:40 PM
How long does it take to detox?

Robbie:



No, like the others have said, that is NOT proper medical practice ! Have you thought about changing drs. ? If it were me, then that would probly be the next step.
I was like Maya - I felt like going to a pain management dr. was giving up. But I've found out that its not ! Pain Management is something you might want to consider - it has helped *so* many others.
As for how long the withdrawal will last- I really dont know. Maybe you could call your dr. & tell her what is happening to you ? It seems to be kind of in-humane to me, for a dr. to treat a patient that way. You dont deserve that !
Remember - we are always here for you
Take care !


Susan
  #8  
Unread 08-04-2002, 06:59 AM
How long does it take to detox?

((Robbie)),
I agree with the others about this being bad practice! I'm so sorry you are having to go thru this
I didnt want to go to the Pain Drs my Gyn referred me to over 2 yrs ago. Like the others, I felt I was giving into the pain and accepting that nothing could ever be done. My experience with my Pain Clinic has been wonderful only wish I would've went sooner. They keep trying to find answers to the pain, all the while trying to keep the pain at a minimum. Here is an excellent link that decribes how Pain clinics work and what procedures they try to help alleviate the pain:

http://www.pain.com/painclinics

Good Luck Robbie! Hopefully the withdrawals will let up soon...please let us know how your doing.....
  #9  
Unread 08-04-2002, 03:10 PM
How long does it take to detox?

Lenore,

I will probably be taking Oxy for the rest of my life. Unless they come up with a way to remove adhesions permantly and garantee me that they will never return I do not intend to go a day with Oxy. As for your brother I will say not all pain Dr's are willing to prescribe opaite pain meds for fear of losing their license, it getting into the wrong hands or they are uneducated in pain therapy and believe that you will become a drug addict with long time drug use. I have never experienced a "high" from the oxy but I have experienced the joy of being pain free and the side effects like drowsyness, nausea and headaches go away with time.

Robbie how are you coming with the withdrawal. I took Ultram for awhile myself,with no pain relief. I never experienced any withdrawal from it. I have seen commercials from lawyers asking people who have had problems with Ultram to call about some class action. It might be something to look into.
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Unread 08-04-2002, 07:00 PM
How long does it take to detox?

I think this has been a tough weekend for me and my family. I honestly thought I might need to go to the ER because I was so sick. I was forced off the Ultram basically because the NP thought it wasn't good for me and wouldn't see me again until I went to pain managment. So ultimately I guess it is my fault because I knew it was coming and chose to ignore it. It worked really well for me.

I appreciate all the advice and good wishes and of course I am going to make an appt. I did call and leave a message and no-one called back.

I need some help that is for sure

I also have had problems with breast masses and had a lumpectomy so I need to find a doc to help me with that as well.

Maya like you my husband is active duty military so I know some of what you must be going through. It stinks.

I don't like being dependent on drugs but It is so hard when you know that pain can be reduced. I admit that sometimes I get a little euphoria from the pain meds but is it because of the drug or the fact I feel 100 times better?

I hate being sick and in pain. My daughters are adopted they are 2 years and 7 months. Both were born cocaine addicted. This weekend what I went through made me feel I was no better than their junkie mothers. So what do I do?

By the way it appears that the withdrawl period seemed to last about 72 hours. Hopefully, that will be the end of it.
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