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Unread 01-24-2003, 08:29 AM
changing the v-dot on time matters

I fogged last night and forgot it was patch-changing day. Oh brother! The reminder I got with the hot flashes and night sweats won't let me repeat that bone-headed mistake!

Just surprised my body is that sensitive I suppose.
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Unread 01-24-2003, 08:35 AM
changing the v-dot on time matters

my body is that sensitive too! i'm on creams and gels that i have not completey forgotten except for a couple of hours. if i'm late it gets really HOT in here! that's my new favorite line in the house anyway..."is it hot in here?" i am no longer a reliable source for what the temp is
Unread 01-24-2003, 10:48 AM
changing the v-dot on time matters

My body is not only that sensitive (only with me it's dry eyes that are the symptom) but seems to need to change every other day if I've worked out both days! Luckily my wrote the script for "every other day" so if I need to, I can change more often, as I need it. And I certainly can't do the "three days/four days route" -- have to change midway on that third day or I'm miserable...

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Unread 01-24-2003, 11:24 AM
question for Audrey


do you know, or did your doc tell you, what the connection between hormones and exercise is? Is your doc unusual in letting you decide when to change the patch? Is it because you on such a low dose anyway, that probably can't do any harm?

just curious....
Unread 01-24-2003, 11:41 AM
changing the v-dot on time matters


My research here and elsewhere indicated that exercise increases estrogen metabolism, and I was finding that my patch just didn't last as long as it had been once I started back up with real workouts again.

My doctor and I worked out a plan: she writes the script for "every other day" and I change it as I feel I need to, using the dry eyes as my guide (that seems to be the most sensitive to me). I also put the patch on my rear end to increase the absorption, which helped, but I still found that I metabolized it too rapidly those first two weeks. I did also increase my progesterone cream to off-set it some, which seems to be working OK.

I have a great doctor who also had a hyst and premature ovarian failure. She says that she has a tendency to just reach for whichever Vivelle patch is in her sample closet at the time (a regimen which she does NOT endorse, BTW) and she is very understanding of my desire to titrate my doses as I need them, trying to keep the exposure as minimal as possible still.

The testosterone seems to have helped. I was going to go up to .0375, but for now the .025 is still meeting my needs...

Are you finding the Estrace not enough some of the time! I know that you are a lot more active than I herniated neck discs are slowing down my activity level, but I still try to run/walk (that "geriatric jog" thing, all I can do with my asthma and neck) two miles daily (about 25 minutes worth of aerobic), free weights twice a week, and 15 - 20 minutes of yoga/Pilates-based moves daily. That's about all I have the time or energy or body for. It still doesn't seem to be enough for me...I'm putting on weight at an alarming rate in spite of changes in eating habits as well...

Hope this answers your question?

Unread 01-24-2003, 12:01 PM
changing the v-dot on time matters

yes, I sometimes feel my estradiol pill wears off, but because it's a high dose anyway, I don't think I can do anything about it. I will likely experiment with using the patch at some point.

You are doing great on your exercise! I am not able, because it's so unbelievably cold here, to run as I'd like, but I am enjoying trying weightlifting and I absolutely love the Pilates. My back has never felt this limber (still can't touch my toes though....)
Unread 01-25-2003, 05:52 AM
changing the v-dot on time matters

Hi MeDHanddaDog,

I've posted on your issue before. If don't change my patch on time I'm miserable. It just happened this last week. I woke up at 3:00 with night sweats & nauseous. The same thing happens every time. I get symptoms like I'm coming down with a flu. I also get real shaky. I've been applying the V.Dot for 2 years now & I've forgotten to change it on time more than just a few occasions. My DH even recognizes my symptoms. He can't help notice when I'm tossing & turning in the middle of the night with night sweats. It keeps him awake also. The same type of symptoms started a while back before It was time to change my patch & my blood work determined my estrogen level was low. My DR increased my strength and that problem was resolved. At least for now it is. I hope the patch works out well for you.

Sister Katie

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