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Unread 02-05-2003, 09:40 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

Anj, in answer to your question........apparently the adhesion removal got rid of the problem, as far as I can tell, except for those two isolated instances.....I seem to be doing fairly well, providing I don't try to lift anything or od any abdominal exercises.....then there's trouble......go figure!!!!
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Unread 02-05-2003, 10:00 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

Thanks for all of the info sisters

I'm starting to feel that my whole body is starting to fall apart LOL! Since the hyst., I'm having bladder, and bowel trouble...and the constant ab pain is enough to drive me loco! I am seeing my Neuro doc today, and plan on telling him about the bowel trouble...I also want to see how they are making out in getting me in to see a GI doc.

Thanks for the links ((((Sheri)))) I'm just now going to take a look. Gosh the fog is bad these days. I thought I had read about this...what can I say excpet "Where's my brain/memory." LOL! Thanks Hun!

((((Druid)))) I'm sure that my meds played a part of this constipation in the beginning...but I seemed to be adjusting. These past couple of weeks have been really bad (with the constipation). Thanks for sharing sweetie, and I am so very sorry you are still suffering. If you ever want to e-mail me, please feel free. I will keep you in my prayers...

((((Gidge)))) Thanks for the info Hun! You know, once I get 'things moving' I have a really hard time bearing down. It's almost like I don't have the control to push anymore (sorry!) Did you ever feel like that?

((((Jill)))) I should try that liquid diet. I haven't been eating much these past few days (drinking a lot of water, and eating fiber)...and I still haven't gone. Thanks so much for sharing, it does help.

((((Kim)))) Thanks for always being there sweetie. I wish I could make you all better. You are such an angel. I hope and pray the docs will be able to figure out what's going on with you.'s off to the docs I go (again LOL!) If I find anything out, I'll let you know. Thanks for being there for me sisters. I appreciate each of you so very much...

Unread 02-05-2003, 10:15 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

Yeah Jude I don't know if it just gets to the point that it's so blocked we can't push or what.....and I was also having (pardon the graphics here) these gigantic movements when I did go that were like 3ft long and two inches wide.....that has since stopped as well?

I too have the bladder and bowel woes since my hyst and I don't really remember anyone mentioning it prior.......hopefully it will all settle down for us sooner or later.......sending big 's sweetie!!!
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Unread 02-06-2003, 07:53 AM
I had a 'rushed' but productive appointment....

With my Neuro Doc! He had another dr with him (don't really know why. I'm guessing he is a younger doc 'in training.')

I told him about my constipation trouble, he suggested I try Milk of Magnesia...Which I did last night, and still nothing. I also mentioned the GI doc that he was going to refer me too...and he said that they are still working on it. GEESH!

I did say that this whole fistula thing is ridiculous! This was mentioned/suspected in October, and I still haven't had the proper testing done. I told him that I just need to know. He was shocked that the Gyn didn't run any tests, and made notes to have my Uro-Gyn follow up with that. So hopefully, I'll know one way or another.

Why do all dr's do this***As I was getting ready to go, he started talking to the younger doc about my case. He mentioned that I was taking Neurontin, and how they sometimes see improvements in IC patients who are taking this drug. He never told me that I have IC...and by the time I 'clued in' to what he said, he had already disappeared down the hospital corridor! Oh well...something else I'll have to write down/ask about at my next appointment with the Uro-Gyn!

While I just love this is very confusing. I think in the next couple of months, I should look into getting all of my test results etc. They still have many tests to perhaps when that is done, I will do this.

((((Gidge)))) I have had those gigantic bm's in the past. I wish I could have one now (except for the pain part).

Thanks again sisters...
Unread 02-06-2003, 08:56 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

The docs do keep us on our toes don't they? As for your test results perhaps when you go for your follow ups on the tests you could ask for copies right than and there. Might be easier to get it bits and pieces at a time, sounds like you're going to have a pretty thick file. That's what I like about my Osteopathic doctor, I never even had to ask for the copies, she actually always had them ready for me. We would go over them while we were both looking at them.

I sure wish this Road was easier for us my friend. Sometimes these darn doctors make it even more difficult.

Unread 02-06-2003, 10:04 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

I'm so sorry you are not getting any clear answers or the testing that is needed I am yet to understand why they *forget* to tell us about test results, new dx's, further conditions or problems they found?!? Do they not think we would like to know this stuff?? That it might be important so we can seek treatment for these? I have found soo many things by reading my Path/Op/test results..things that I wasnt made aware of! Imagine what some people could be walking around w/ & not even know it, if they were to never read these reports
IC could explain some of your pain Judy From all I've read it is a very painful condition...Here are some links I have on IC that might be helpful to you:

Interstitial Cystitis

Interstitial cystitis refers to an uncomfortable and annoying inflammatory condition of the bladder. The classic symptoms of interstitial cystitis include urinary frequency and suprapubic pain. The interstitial cystitis patient has a small capacity, irritated bladder. No one is certain of the cause.

The incidence of interstitial cystitis is much greater in females than in males. As with urethral syndrome (see above), many other more common urologic problems are diagnosed incorrectly before the proper diagnosis is made. Interstitial cystitis must be diagnosed with the use of the cystoscope, an instrument which can directly visualize the interior of the bladder.


While there are numerous treatments for interstitial cystitis there is no outright cure. At times the disease may go away on its own while at times it may worsen. Effective treatments for interstitial cystitis have included overstretching of the bladder with water, instillation of a dilute silver nitrate solution into the bladder, steroid treatment and vitamins. Some of these treatments require general anesthesia in order to be tolerated. A common and effective treatment for the disease is to instill a chemical called DMSO into the bladder.

Interstitial Cystitis - Pelvic Pain from the Bladder:

IC Support Group:

Interstitial Cystitis: Progress Against Disabling Bladder Condition:

bladder diary:

Here are some other links Judy I thot were interesting:

Pain Diary Worksheet:

Brief Pain Inventory:

Initial Pain Assessment Tool:

Putting Pain After Surgery To Rest:

Treatments for Pain:

Chronic Pain:

Good Luck Judy My prayers are with you my friend...(((hugs)))
Unread 02-06-2003, 04:42 PM
Great info ((((Sheri)))) Thanks so much my dear friend....

The IC symptoms match up...except for one thing - I have a large bladder capacity. I wonder if it's possible to have a large capacity as well as IC?! Who knows....

I know many of you are facing a lot more then me, and I'm sorry if I sound like I'm whining...but today it feels as if my whole body has decided to simply fall apart. I never really had big problems with my bladder until fairly recently. This constipation thing is making me wonder...the FMS is so bad that I can barely put any pressure on my right foot. Can't forget about the CFS/IBS. The white/numb finger business...on-going Endo problems...nerve damage...and I know that I haven't bothered mentioning other things because I sound like a nut case Now my left arm has decided to twitch away all by itself....and the last few days my vision has been blurry. What's up with that?!?!

Just lock me up, and throw away the key LOL! I'm not depressed...not today, but I feel tired from all of this. Sorry to be such a baby....

Thanks for listening dear friends
Unread 02-06-2003, 08:48 PM
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Hi there,
I'm sorry you have so much going on. You have every right to whine, complain and lean on us here. You offer so much support to others, none of us would ever think you are being a baby! I seem to hurt all over these days as well. Stiff in the morning, sometimes my legs are numb, awful neck pain and between the shoulder blades pain, I've been wondering about FM myself but can't even begin to think I have anything else at the moment. I just keep trying to deal with it. As far as bladders, my urologist said I have small capacity, but did not mention IC. He thinks the small capacity has occurred in part because of all the leaking I have going on because my urethra is dropped and I have little support for the bladder. My recotcele was fixed, but now the bladder. I just wonder if one fix leads to another problem. I'm scared to death of having the bladder sling surgery at the end of the month, but yet I just can't stand having this incontinence all the time and am clinging to some hope that it will help me. I slipped on some ice yesterday near my car and grabbed on to the car door to hold myself up and basically soaked my pants with urine, just from trying to hold onto the car door. I had to change and was late for work. Yep, we sure do get sick of things and we have every right to feel that way. I don't know why you may have blurry vision, but it seems you and me both seem to have one thing after the other. You are NOT a nut case. Write to me any time. You are always in my prayers.
Love, Light, Blessings
Unread 02-07-2003, 05:30 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

Your problems with your hands & arms could be FMS related ((Judy))..I have Rhaynauds Syndrome that causes my hands to turn colors when exposed to temperature changes. Here is some good info on it as well as some on FMS I recently found:

Living with FMS (Fibromyalgia Syndrome):
Fibromyalgia FAQ for Patients:
Absolutely everything you need to know about Fibromyalgia:
Medications for Fibromyalgia:
Fibromyalgia: What it is and how to manage it:
FMS-CFS-Chronic Pain Support:
Treatment of Fibromyalgia in Detail:
Symptoms of FMS:
Sleep disorders
alpha-EEG anomaly (the same anomaly associated with chronic fatigue syndrome)
periodic leg movement (PLMS), and restless leg syndrome (RLS)

Chronic headaches
myofascial pain syndrome or MPS
Chemical Sensitivity
Sensory Sensitivity
Cognitive Disorders fog

Genito-Urinary Problems:
-increased need to urinate, or a false sense of urgency, a symptom that mimics that of a bladder infection. Some women with Fibromyalgia may also suffer from conditions such as vulvar vestibulitis or vulvodynia, characterized by a painful vulvar region and/or pain during sexual intercourse
**Problems with Equilibrium:
Skin Complaints: Some Fibromyalgia patients experience itchy, dry, or blotchy skin.
hyperactive nervous system,
Depression And Anxiety:
swollen feeling in extremities
dry mouth
weakness and muscle pain after exertion
TMJ: Diet and Exercise Treatment:

Interview: Without a Cure, Symptom Management Is Key
Russell Rothenberg, M.D.,is a practicing rheumatologist in Washington, D.C.; chairman of the Medical Advisory Committee of the National Fibromyalgia Partnership and associate professor of medicine at the George Washington University Hospital. Dr. Rothenberg has a special interest in fibromyalgia syndrome and chronic pain, and he has treated more than 1,000 patients with fibromyalgia syndrome. He graduated from Albany Medical College in Albany, NY, and he completed an internship and residency at Long Island Jewish Medical Center and a rheumatology fellowship at Mt. Sinai Medical Center in New York City.

Q. Fibromyalgia syndrome often is treated by rheumatologists. Does this mean it is a rheumatic condition?

A. It is treated by rheumatologists for two reasons. First, many fibromyalgia patients have co-existent rheumatological disease such as systemic lupus, Lyme disease or Sjögren's syndrome. Second, rheumatologists are experienced in treating people with chronic pain and chronic fatigue, doing tender point examinations and evaluating myofascial pain. However, people with fibromyalgia could also be cared for by a physical medicine specialist or an internist with extensive experience treating fibromyalgia.

Q. Who is most at risk for developing fibromyalgia syndrome?

A. Women between the ages of 20 and 60 and people with concurrent rheumatologic problems or endocrine problems, such as thyroid disease, are at greatest risk. It is not unusual to see fibromyalgia at the time of menopause and some families that have multiple members with fibromyalgia in two or three generations. (24)

Q. What causes fibromyalgia syndrome?

A. Fibromyalgia is probably a composite of several illnesses that all have the same type of pathogenesis. In my practice, we see patients with post-viral-infection fibromyalgia, post-traumatic fibromyalgia, fibromyalgia associated with rheumatologic illness and what appears to be a genetic form of fibromyalgia that the person may have had since he or she was a teenager. The cause may be a response to chronic pain, it may be endocrinological or it may be both. Ninety percent of people with fibromyalgia are women, so the cause may be somehow related to the physical make-up of women. Some studies have looked at neuroendocrine imbalances in fibromyalgia; these imbalances would be more common in women, who have hormonal variations over the 20- to 60-year age range.

Q. What course does the syndrome usually take?

A. People with fibromyalgia tend to experience gradual problems with chronic pain, chronic fatigue, non-restorative sleep disturbance where they wake up unrefreshed, cognitive changes affecting their ability to perform complex tasks and myofascial pain in which the person has severe spasms and soft-tissue pain. These problems can worsen with increased stress, lack of sleep, injuries or concurrent illnesses, but there is no clear pattern of progression.

Q. Is fibromyalgia associated with psychological distress, either as a cause or an effect of the syndrome?

A. The incidence of depression and distress in the fibromyalgia population is more than 40 percent,(13) which is about the same as that for the rheumatoid arthritis population. Often, patients with a flare-up of fibromyalgia also have a concurrent flare-up of depression or anxiety. People with fibromyalgia also become frustrated with their pain, their inability to concentrate and their fatigue. They can feel alienated from their families, colleagues and friends, who may not understand why the person has such fatigue and difficulty functioning and therefore may not provide much support.

Joining fibromyalgia support groups, getting significant others involved in support groups and having their doctors write letters to their employers to explain needed accommodations can go a long way in helping people with fibromyalgia.

Q. In what ways does fibromyalgia syndrome affect a person's ability to function in daily life?

A. One of the biggest problems is that many fibromyalgia patients have strenuous jobs and cannot get work accommodations, such as working only 30 hours per week, needed to allow the condition to improve. Only about 16 percent of people with fibromyalgia have full work disability, (14) and the majority continue to work but need accommodations. Additionally, heavy housework, any type of repetitive motion and child-rearing can be difficult. People with fibromyalgia need to conserve their energy, and it can be very difficult for them to work full-time, do household chores and take care of young children unless they are getting adequate help from their spouses or other family members.

Q. How can health care practitioners distinguish fibromyalgia syndrome from other conditions, such as chronic fatigue syndrome, that have overlapping symptoms?

A. A full medical evaluation, including blood tests and sometimes X-rays, is necessary to rule out other diseases that can mimic fibromyalgia syndrome. Tender point examination (15) and identification of myofascial pain and sleep disturbance are helpful, and a good clinical understanding of what these patients look like and how they behave is also important. Chronic fatigue syndrome is different from fibromyalgia and it is not associated with pain, abnormal tender points or non-restorative sleep disturbance.

It is also important to understand that people with fibromyalgia may have the same problems-allergies, migraine headaches, sinusitis, abdominal pain from irritable bowel syndrome-as everybody else. However, when a person has concurrent fibromyalgia, these problems, if left untreated, may actually cause the fibromyalgia to worsen. Furthermore, other common problems, such as temporomandibular disorders and irritable bowel syndrome, are amplified in fibromyalgia patients but are not necessarily part of the disease process.

Q. What are the goals in managing fibromyalgia syndrome?

A. The major goals are reduction of pain and fatigue. Other goals include improving cardiovascular fitness through a cardiovascular exercise program and improving muscle tone, posture and gait through a stretching and postural exercise program. Proper ergonomics is especially important for people with fibromyalgia who work at computers, do a lot of repetitive motion or sit in one spot all day. Reducing sleep disturbance and treating concurrent depression are also important in managing this syndrome. Physical therapy is often an important treatment since many patients cannot exercise or adequately stretch due to sever myofascial pain and they require professional help.

Q. Exercise is important, but does diet also play a role in managing Fibromyalgia?

A. Yes. Diet is important in several ways. Those who have fibromyalgia and concurrent food allergies could experience greater fibromyalgia symptoms if they eat foods to which they are allergic. Those with IBS who do not eat a high-fiber diet or do not avoid foods that cause them trouble may experience increased IBS symptoms, which may in turn lead to fibromyalgia flare. Furthermore, people with fibromyalgia can benefit from magnesium for muscle spasms and good multivitamins for general nutrition.

Q. What is the role of stress reduction in managing fibromyalgia?

A. Getting control of one's life is probably the most important way to reduce stress, which is related to increased pain and fatigue. That means conserving energy, taking part in an exercise program, controlling one's hours of work and managing one's family life. Behavior modification programs and support groups are useful in reducing stress.

Q. What is the real importance of multidisciplinary treatment in managing fibromyalgia?

A. It is extraordinarily important. Concurrent health problems-gynecologic problems; ear, nose and throat problems; respiratory problems-all affect fibromyalgia. Physicians who do not understand fibromyalgia may overtreat because the patient has a lot of symptoms, or they may underreact because they don't realize that a relatively minor sinus infection could cause increased myofascial pain of the head and neck and cause a fibromyalgia crisis. The primary care physician needs to understand the patient's fibromyalgia syndrome and how it affects the rest of his or her medical care and needs to work with a specialist and physical therapist or other health professionals who have a good knowledge of fibromyalgia.

Q. Do people with fibromyalgia syndrome often use alternative approaches or medicines, and are these alternatives beneficial?

A. Many people use alternative approaches for very good reasons-because we don't have a cure for fibromyalgia and treatments are limited. I believe that if alternative approaches are not harmful and if they promote a healthy lifestyle, then they may be beneficial for fibromyalgia patients. Physicians and other health professionals need to be open-minded. If we don't have a cure and we don't have answers for patients, then we can try alternatives and then make a medical assessment to see if the patient is getting better.

Q. Can a person with fibromyalgia ever be cured?

A. By definition, you can't cure a problem if you don't know its cause. However, many fibromyalgia patients improve over time if they have a good course of therapy, and we do see remissions. Severity and duration of the illness are important factors-the more severe and prolonged the illness, the less likely the person will have complete remission. Often, fibromyalgia symptoms improve with reductions in work hours, a good program of stretching and low-impact aerobic exercises and appropriate medications. (25)

Many Unexplained Syndromes May Share a Common Root

Fibromyalgia syndrome is unique in many ways, yet researchers and clinicians alike find that it overlaps with other unexplained medical conditions, including chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), temporomandibular disorder (TMD), irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) and migraine headache.(1, 2, 12, 16) Symptoms such as pain, fatigue, poor sleep and depression cut across these conditions, and many people who have one of these conditions also meet the diagnostic criteria for at least one other. (1, 16) A recent review of evidence shows, for example, that among people with fibromyalgia, as many as 80 percent also have CFS, 75 percent have TMD and as many as 60 percent have IBS.(1)

Some scientists, including rheumatologist Muhammad Yunus, M.D., of the University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria, believe that the cause of these unexplained conditions may be rooted in central nervous system dysfunction. For this reason, Yunus has dubbed these overlapping conditions "central sensitivity syndromes." (CSS) (16)

"The single most remarkable thing that binds these syndromes together is that they lack the usual pathology that one can see under a microscope or on an X-ray," Yunus explains. "However, virtually all of these syndromes appear to have a neurobiological basis that results in central nervous system hypersensitivity."

This hypersensitivity, he says, results in amplified, widespread and persistent pain. For example, "If one applies a painful stimulus like a pin prick to a normal person, the pain is felt in a small circle around the pin prick. In a person who has central sensitivity, the pain is felt in a much wider area and is much more unpleasant."

"An estimated 30 million to 35 million Americans suffer from CSS," Yunus says. (16) "These patients undergo a lot of genuine pain and distress, based on identifiable biopathophysiological mechanisms that produce significant disability to an individual and enormous costs for society." (16)

Much more research into central sensitivity syndromes is needed, Yunus suggests. For now, though, understanding CSS commonalties can help clinicians develop cross-cutting management plans and may provide impetus for developing drugs that can benefit people with more than one of these overlapping syndromes.
Gosh the symptoms FMS can cause:cry:

Aerobic Exercise Reduces Pain in FM Patients:

New Developments in the Management of Fibromyalgia Syndrome:

The National Association of Myofascial Trigger Point Therapists:

of Pain: The Controversy Surrounding Chronic Pain and Opioids:

Fibromyalgia and CFS Basics:

Fibromyalgia: What it is and how to manage it:


FMS stats:

Prescribed Medications for Fibromyalgia:

Identifying Fibromyalgia:

Questions You Should Ask About Pain & Pain Treatment:

Good Luck Judy Please keep us posted on your progress
Unread 02-07-2003, 06:27 AM
Is it possible to have a 'partial' bowel blockage?

We're here for you sweetie! Who better to understand how you're feeling than those that are going thru much of the same. Some days I think dh should just trade me in for a newer model, than again he probably wouldn't get much for trade in value.

Hang in there Judy, hopefully the doctors will figure something out for you soon. Remember, you can come here and vent, whine, scream, pout, laugh, cry. If you feel like listing every pain you're having today, you do it my friend. That is what we're here for. We're all in this together. I would never ever think you were nuts.

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