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Unread 03-24-2003, 06:02 AM
boo hoo - surgery again!

Hi ladies - I haven't been here much since my TAH/BSO 1/29/03. I feel virtually healed from that, but STILL have that thing going on. At about 2 weeks post-op I realized that the pain was much, much better but that I was more fatigued. Then upper right quadrant pain started and spread to the back and shoulders. It was bad and stayed constantly. I've struggled with this now for about 5 weeks because I was determined to go the "proper" route (you know, gyno first, then PCP, then specialist/surgeon) rather than resort to the ER. Every doctor and nurse I've seen has said I should have gone to the ER. To me, the ER is for life/death situations - but, I have learned my lesson. I would have been done with all this if I had. Anyway, I've now had an abdominal ultrasound, a complete blood work up, an EKG, a HIDA scan with ejection fraction, a CT scan and a venous duplex. Too much! Ultrasound showed no stones in the gall bladder, just crystallizations. Blood work was all within normal ranges. The HIDA scan came back at 16% (below 35% is considered virtually non-functional) and the CT scan showed 4 cysts on my liver. Doctor ordered a liver MRI - they just called to schedule the test - I had no clue what they were talking about. Bottom line is this - I have surgery scheduled on 4/3 to remove the gall bladder and am having the MRI Wednesday. I may need to have a change in approach to surgery. I'm so tired of this - I thought I was done with doctors and hospitals and now feel like I opened a can of worms with my hysterectomy. Sorry for such a long post - I'm just venting. And wonder if anyone else has had gall bladder surgery (or similiar problems) and what their recovery was like compared to the hysterectomy. My boss is going to have a cow with me taking time off again. Thanks!
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Unread 03-24-2003, 07:03 AM
Hi Angie

Welcome back to the land of support!!!!!!!!

I am so sorry that you are having more problems. I feel the same way though. I had my hyst almost 2 years ago and now am scheduled for another lap for possible recurring endo or adhesions and after that will be scheduled for ANOTHER surgery to repair cystocele, rectocele, umbilical hernia, and a hemerriodectomy.:cry:

I too thought it was over and now am on another path of surgeries. I have not had gallbladder issues however, but the rate I am going, who knows. I am sorry to sound so negative, but I am as frusterated as you are about yet another surgery.. I know a few ladies here that have had the gallbladder surgery and I am sure they will be along soon to help you through it and give you recovery details. I dont know about the liver tests either, but hopefully someone can help there too.

Feel free to vent whenever you need to. We are here for you and will help in anyway we can!!

I am sending a BIG to you and will keep my fingers crossed that your liver MRI comes back negative..

Take care and please let us know how the MRI turns out!!
Unread 03-24-2003, 10:56 AM
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Hi Angie I'm so sorry you're going to have to go back and have another surgery! I haven't had my gallbladder removed, but I did have a second surgery a couple of months after my hyst to remove a vaginal adhesion, and this week I am having another one, a colon resection for recurring diverticulitis. So I do understand what it feels like to have it not be all over after the hyst.

Sweetie, you will get through this. I hope you are getting the best possible medical care and everything will go smoothly for you. I will be thinking of you this week and waiting to hear how you are doing. Remember, you are still a pretty new , and you need to make extra sure to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids after the surgery this time too.

BTW, I went to college in F'burg (MWC) back in the 70s... it is sooo beautiful there! I hear that it is a much bigger city now than it was back then, but still gorgeous. I hope the spring flowers and new growth will fill you with healing thoughts.
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Unread 03-24-2003, 12:05 PM
boo hoo - surgery again!

Hi Angie, I'm sorry to hear you are having problems. I'm also having my gallbladder removed. My surgery is scheduled for Mar. 27th. Are you having yours done laparoscopally? That's the procedure I'm going to have. My surgeon says I'll feel better in about four to five days post but no heavy lifting for a couple weeks. I'm having it done as a day surgery, no overnight stay for me! I hope! My sis had hers out last summer and for her it was a breeze. Hopefully that will be our situation also I'll let you know how it goes and we can compare notes. Of course everyone is different and healing time varies from person to person. I that your surgery goes well and I'll be thinking of you. You're pretty new from your hyst so take it real easy afterwards and get lots of rest. My DH is taking a few days off for me to take care of the kids so I plan to really pamper myself. I'm very fortunate that way. Please let me know how you make out. Take care Kathyanne
Unread 03-24-2003, 11:59 PM
boo hoo - surgery again!

I am so sorry to hear you are having problems. I had my gallbladder removed 8 years ago. I started having pain when I was about 8 months pregnant, and the pain was so bad that I thought I was going into premature labor. I have since heard that gall bladder pain is the worst type of pain there is, and that it compares to labor pains(and I would have to agree). I have never had pain that severe since then. after my baby was born, the pain continued on, so I got it thoroughly checked out and found I had several gall stones blocking my duct. I had surgery on a wednesday and was back to work the following monday. I could have had up to 2 weeks off work if I had wanted, but it was not too bad. it can be done outpatient, but my surgeon had a policy about spending one night after surgery just to be safe. I had that laparoscopic approach, and the biggest problem I remember was gas a couple of days after surgery. they inject air into your abdomen during the procedure to kind of separate the organs so that they can protect the other organs. other than that, it was a breeze. Compared to the TAH i just had.. it was anyway. The post surgical pain was nothing compared to the gall bladder attacks. Although, everyone is different, so ask your doc about recovery time and specifics. good luck to you. put up a post so we know how you are doing.
take care,
Unread 03-25-2003, 01:06 AM

I had a TAH/RSO oct/02. I was told at one point-op that my mass (they did not know it was a fibroid til they opened me up!!) was probably malignant. Was very bad scene for a while around here...

Anyway, I thought I was done with doctors and hospitals too, (at least as much as one who works as a can be...) Now I am experiencing a feeling of fullness under right ribs, very occasionally there is some pain there. I have the belching, flatulence, and other symptoms, also. My Dad actually had emergency surgery yrs ago for a ruptured gall bladder. I have put off going to doc, but will make appt tomorrow. I have a hunch I will be following in your footsteps... Keep in touch.

Unread 03-25-2003, 05:47 AM
boo hoo - surgery again!

I'm sorry you will be having more surgery I havent had my GB removed but I did have to have 2 additional surgeries post-hyst. I had an RSO @ 12 weeks post-op, then emergency surgery for Bowel obstructions 2 months later. It gets soo frustrating & disheartening to have this surgery & then to only end up needing more
As you see, there are several ((Sisters)) here who've had their GB ((Mom)) had this done a few yrs ago & she had an easy recovery..2-3 weeks Her's was done via Lap.
Here is some info I have on GallBladder removal, all the surgery itself entails& some info on cysts of the Liver & Biopsy:

Gall Bladder removal:

Diet after gall bladder removal:

Pain after Gall Bladder removal:

Removal of Gall Bladder via Lap:

Acute cholecystitis:

Laparoscopic Gallbladder Removal:

Simple cysts of the liver:

Having a Liver Biopsy:

What is a Biopsy?
A biopsy is a tiny sample of body tissue -- in this case, liver tissue. The tissue is prepared and stained in a laboratory, so the physician can view it under a microscope. This usually helps the physician make a specific diagnosis and determine the extent and seriousness of the condition. It is vital information for determining treatment.

The Procedure:
The liver biopsy is usually performed on an outpatient basis. A mild sedative may be given to the patient prior to the procedure. Sometimes, an ultrasound or echo machine is used to identify the best location to make the biopsy. Usually, the physician can make this determination simply by examination. The patient lies quietly on the back or slightly to the left side. That area of the skin where the biopsy will be done is carefully cleaned. Then, a local anesthetic agent is used to numb the skin and tissue below. A specially designed thin needle is inserted through the skin. At this point, the physician will tell the patient how to breathe. The needle is advanced into and out of the liver. This takes only 1 or 2 seconds. A slender core of tissue is removed with the needle, and is then processed through the laboratory. The entire procedure from start to finish lasts only 15 to 20 minutes.

The patient is kept at rest for several hours following the exam. Medical personnel check the heart rate and blood pressure during this time. There may be some discomfort in the chest or shoulder, however, this is usually temporary. Medication is available for this discomfort, if needed. Before being discharged, the patient is given instructions about returning to normal activities and about eating. Activity is usually restricted for a day or so after the biopsy. However, the procedure does not require a long recovery period.
I hope this is of some help Good Luck..((((hugs)))
Unread 03-25-2003, 06:50 PM

Hi angie;

you don't want to put off having that nasty thing out believe me. I had mine out when my oldest DD was 9 months old and I was still nursing her. I had the tummy surgery the emergency way mine had burst. I didn't have the long extended periods of pain. But God it was worse than labor when it did hit. I had one week of serious pain thought my appendists had burst or something then it settled then another bout then I went for the ultrasound and had an attack on the table and we think thats when it had burst. They rushed me into emerg and the next morning I was wipped into surgery. Threw all this I pumped my milk and when I was able to move to my side they brought the baby into me and I nursed her. The staff on the surgery floor were great I spent a week in hospital and then because of the fact I had a young babe I had a home health care nurse visist every day for three weeks to change my dressing. Granted that was 12 years ago. Good luck on the surgery.

Unread 03-26-2003, 03:07 PM
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Hi Angie

I had my gallbladder removed in 1992 by laproscope. I can tell you surgery was a walk in the park compared to hyst. Don't worry you will fly through the surgery.

Good luck

Unread 04-09-2003, 07:19 PM
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I hope your surgery went well and you are starting to feel better. I had TAH on 19 Nov 2002, then back to the castle on 5 Jan for gallbladder removal. I had a hard recovery from the gallbladder surgery even though it was laproscopic - I think because I was not yet totally healed from the TAH. But I really did not have a choice on the gallbladder surgery - my eyeballs were turning yellow - and the attacks were wow. Just in the past few weeks have I really been feeling well again - took a long time. Let me know how you are doing. md

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